Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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richbee
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Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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Sorry - more random questions :lol:

Not entirely a serious question, but looking at batteries etc, I also notice that the house-size PV panels seem very cheap currently - JA Solar 410W is £95 inc VAT at ITS.

For a campervan application, the 410W panel is far too big and probably too high voltage, but I do wonder why is a Victron 90W panel £118?? I would expect some kind of price per W parity
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Re: Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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Anything with the V-word will come with a premium pricetag!

How much space do you have? Have a look at the 1500mm Perlight panels if you need something shorter.
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
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Re: Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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Stinsy wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:24 pm Anything with the V-word will come with a premium pricetag!

How much space do you have? Have a look at the 1500mm Perlight panels if you need something shorter.
This is true!!

It's not a real project at this stage -
I'm just inspired by Joe's shed solar, so looked at ITS for normal panel prices - and they are much cheaper than I remember.
I have an 80W solar panel on my van, and I checked again at 12V planet to see how much van panels are - and they are much more expensive than I remember!
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
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Re: Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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richbee wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:27 pm
Stinsy wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:24 pm Anything with the V-word will come with a premium pricetag!

How much space do you have? Have a look at the 1500mm Perlight panels if you need something shorter.
This is true!!

It's not a real project at this stage -
I'm just inspired by Joe's shed solar, so looked at ITS for normal panel prices - and they are much cheaper than I remember.
I have an 80W solar panel on my van, and I checked again at 12V planet to see how much van panels are - and they are much more expensive than I remember!
Vans are fashionable at the moment and anything to do with their conversation costs silly money. The trick to doing a conversion is to not use anything designed for that purpose where possible!

An 80W panel won’t be much use these days! Many laptops use more power than that. A 295W Perlight is probably a starting point. I would probably go for Victron for the charge controller though.
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger

(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
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If the motor home is big enough to mount the JA Solar 410W panel on the roof as a permanent fixture. You have 410 watts to play with.


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I have got two of these at £41 each. They work very well.
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Re: Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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Stinsy wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:08 pm
richbee wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:27 pm
Stinsy wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:24 pm Anything with the V-word will come with a premium pricetag!

How much space do you have? Have a look at the 1500mm Perlight panels if you need something shorter.
This is true!!

It's not a real project at this stage -
I'm just inspired by Joe's shed solar, so looked at ITS for normal panel prices - and they are much cheaper than I remember.
I have an 80W solar panel on my van, and I checked again at 12V planet to see how much van panels are - and they are much more expensive than I remember!
Vans are fashionable at the moment and anything to do with their conversation costs silly money. The trick to doing a conversion is to not use anything designed for that purpose where possible!

An 80W panel won’t be much use these days! Many laptops use more power than that. A 295W Perlight is probably a starting point. I would probably go for Victron for the charge controller though.
We mostly use the leisure battery for the fridge, plus lights and USB charging, and so far, the 80W solar plus 110Ah lead acid battery has been absolutely fine - we've managed 4 days without any other top up no problem.
Having said that, next time I would definitely add more solar
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
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Re: Motorhome PV vs. house PV

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ALAN/ALAN D wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 pm If the motor home is big enough to mount the JA Solar 410W panel on the roof as a permanent fixture. You have 410 watts to play with.


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I have got two of these at £41 each. They work very well.
I know, it would be great - not sure how big a van it would have to be to have 1.7 x 1.1m space free on the roof tho
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
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That reminds me I have a flexible PV panel procured through the other place hiding somewhere.
Clearly still to be fitted to the Van…that sits with a trickle charger and 1foot tubular heater keeping it warm…
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AGT wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:29 pm That reminds me I have a flexible PV panel procured through the other place hiding somewhere.
Clearly still to be fitted to the Van…that sits with a trickle charger and 1foot tubular heater keeping it warm…
I love the fact that my CTEK B2B charger is also my MPPT solar charger for the van, and it trickle charges the main van battery once the leisure battery is full
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
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