Solar record?

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GarethC wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:31 pm If you look at average annual solar generation, growth of the last several years has been depressingly, and surprisingly, slow. Figures from iamkate:

2015: 0.96GW
2016: 1.09
2017: 1.18
2018: 1.31
2019: 1.33
2020: 1.37
2021: 1.28
2022: 1.40
2023: 1.39
2024: 1.51

i.e. only just over 50% growth in last 9 years. Just 15% growth since 2018.

Let's just hope the contribution starts to grow a lot faster....

GWh surely?

But those figures will reflect FIT ending in Q1 2019 and the poor sunshine hours in 2021, 2023 and 2024.

My annual generation and Heathrow sunshine hours (2.1kWp) were

Year kWh Hours sunshine
2020 2024 1614
2021 1794 1237
2022 2016 1671
2023 1885 1506
2024 1699 1446

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics, but in this case the statistics are telling more of the truth.
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John_S wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:14 pm
GarethC wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:31 pm If you look at average annual solar generation, growth of the last several years has been depressingly, and surprisingly, slow. Figures from iamkate:

2015: 0.96GW
2016: 1.09
2017: 1.18
2018: 1.31
2019: 1.33
2020: 1.37
2021: 1.28
2022: 1.40
2023: 1.39
2024: 1.51

i.e. only just over 50% growth in last 9 years. Just 15% growth since 2018.

Let's just hope the contribution starts to grow a lot faster....

GWh surely?

But those figures will reflect FIT ending in Q1 2019 and the poor sunshine hours in 2021, 2023 and 2024.

My annual generation and Heathrow sunshine hours (2.1kWp) were

Year kWh Hours sunshine
2020 2024 1614
2021 1794 1237
2022 2016 1671
2023 1885 1506
2024 1699 1446

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics, but in this case the statistics are telling more of the truth.
I thought the figures referred to the average power delivered by solar over the year so multiply by number of hours in a year to get annual GWh figure. Not sure whether Solar farms are included are they?
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John_S wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:14 pm
GarethC wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:31 pm If you look at average annual solar generation, growth of the last several years has been depressingly, and surprisingly, slow. Figures from iamkate:

2015: 0.96GW
2016: 1.09
2017: 1.18
2018: 1.31
2019: 1.33
2020: 1.37
2021: 1.28
2022: 1.40
2023: 1.39
2024: 1.51

i.e. only just over 50% growth in last 9 years. Just 15% growth since 2018.

Let's just hope the contribution starts to grow a lot faster....

GWh surely?

But those figures will reflect FIT ending in Q1 2019 and the poor sunshine hours in 2021, 2023 and 2024.

My annual generation and Heathrow sunshine hours (2.1kWp) were

Year kWh Hours sunshine
2020 2024 1614
2021 1794 1237
2022 2016 1671
2023 1885 1506
2024 1699 1446

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics, but in this case the statistics are telling more of the truth.
Looks like its in GWp of installed capacity,
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The figures are as per Countrypaul's comment. Realise some installed solar will show up as reduced demand.

Nowty's post reinforces the point that installed capacity growth has been glacial in recent years.
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Countrypaul wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:24 pm
John_S wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:14 pm
GarethC wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:31 pm If you look at average annual solar generation, growth of the last several years has been depressingly, and surprisingly, slow. Figures from iamkate:

2015: 0.96GW
2016: 1.09
2017: 1.18
2018: 1.31
2019: 1.33
2020: 1.37
2021: 1.28
2022: 1.40
2023: 1.39
2024: 1.51

i.e. only just over 50% growth in last 9 years. Just 15% growth since 2018.

Let's just hope the contribution starts to grow a lot faster....

GWh surely?

But those figures will reflect FIT ending in Q1 2019 and the poor sunshine hours in 2021, 2023 and 2024.

My annual generation and Heathrow sunshine hours (2.1kWp) were

Year kWh Hours sunshine
2020 2024 1614
2021 1794 1237
2022 2016 1671
2023 1885 1506
2024 1699 1446

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics, but in this case the statistics are telling more of the truth.
I thought the figures referred to the average power delivered by solar over the year so multiply by number of hours in a year to get annual GWh figure. Not sure whether Solar farms are included are they?
Yep, that's the way I read the solar and other figures, and I think the figure is an estimate of all grid connected PV. Wind has risen from ~2GW to ~10GW.
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by Mart » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:56 pm
Yep, that's the way I read the solar and other figures, and I think the figure is an estimate of all grid connected PV. Wind has risen from ~2GW to ~10GW.
It's all rather depressing when compared to other countries progress in the last decade but with panel prices now at an all time low in combination with the US throwing tariffs around to all and sundry just maybe we can benefit and begin playing catch up in the coming months and years ahead. Admittedly we can't change weather patterns but we can at least take advantage from the sushine hours offered.
Just thinking about the new PV record output reached twice in the last week then with another 10 weeks to the longest day I wonder how many more times it may be surpassed.
This last week our array has hit daily figures of about 85% of the max enjoyed in a normal year. Could there be another 15% nationally still to come!
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Adokforme wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:38 pm
by Mart » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:56 pm
Yep, that's the way I read the solar and other figures, and I think the figure is an estimate of all grid connected PV. Wind has risen from ~2GW to ~10GW.
It's all rather depressing when compared to other countries progress in the last decade but with panel prices now at an all time low in combination with the US throwing tariffs around to all and sundry just maybe we can benefit and begin playing catch up in the coming months and years ahead. Admittedly we can't change weather patterns but we can at least take advantage from the sushine hours offered.
Just thinking about the new PV record output reached twice in the last week then with another 10 weeks to the longest day I wonder how many more times it may be surpassed.
This last week our array has hit daily figures of about 85% of the max enjoyed in a normal year. Could there be another 15% nationally still to come!
Good news though, is that according to iamkate again, average demand in 2012 was 36.5GW, and 2024 it was 30.1GW. So solar has risen from 0.38% (0.14GW) to 5% (1.51GW). Not sure if that's cheating, so let's just compare both generation figures against 2024 demand, so 0.47 to 5%, a 10x improvement.

We absolutely could have, and should have done better, but perhaps given high PV costs, and relatively poor sun, going in on wind (more) first has worked out. But I'll be disappointed if the UK doesn't start pushing PV much harder, both supply and demand side. The last CfD auction actually had PV prices beating on-shore and off-shore wind, but admittedly still much higher than off-shore wind a few years ago, before the Ukraine/gas impact on energy, steel, transport etc hit it much harder than average inflation.
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Mart wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:38 am
Adokforme wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:38 pm
by Mart » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:56 pm
Yep, that's the way I read the solar and other figures, and I think the figure is an estimate of all grid connected PV. Wind has risen from ~2GW to ~10GW.
It's all rather depressing when compared to other countries progress in the last decade but with panel prices now at an all time low in combination with the US throwing tariffs around to all and sundry just maybe we can benefit and begin playing catch up in the coming months and years ahead. Admittedly we can't change weather patterns but we can at least take advantage from the sushine hours offered.
Just thinking about the new PV record output reached twice in the last week then with another 10 weeks to the longest day I wonder how many more times it may be surpassed.
This last week our array has hit daily figures of about 85% of the max enjoyed in a normal year. Could there be another 15% nationally still to come!
Good news though, is that according to iamkate again, average demand in 2012 was 36.5GW, and 2024 it was 30.1GW. So solar has risen from 0.38% (0.14GW) to 5% (1.51GW). Not sure if that's cheating, so let's just compare both generation figures against 2024 demand, so 0.47 to 5%, a 10x improvement.

We absolutely could have, and should have done better, but perhaps given high PV costs, and relatively poor sun, going in on wind (more) first has worked out. But I'll be disappointed if the UK doesn't start pushing PV much harder, both supply and demand side. The last CfD auction actually had PV prices beating on-shore and off-shore wind, but admittedly still much higher than off-shore wind a few years ago, before the Ukraine/gas impact on energy, steel, transport etc hit it much harder than average inflation.
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Interestingly, solar has already nearly achieved the average from last year (currently 1.5GW average vs. 1.51GW last year).

With a couple more months until the longest day, unless weather is particularly poor we should achieve a decent year on year increase.
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A little off topic perhaps, but still a solar record albeit world wide and highlighting stagnating output from the more traditional forms of energy generation.
Australia among world’s solar and wind champions

New data shows Sweden, Australia, Netherlands, Germany and Denmark are the leading countries for per capita solar and wind generation capacity. Furthermore, it reveals global solar capacity has been doubling every three years, and wind every six years, whereas fossil and nuclear capacity and generation have been almost static in recent years.
https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2 ... -159300013
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