Balcony solar PV

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Over 1kW balcony solar now available in Germany with an OTA upgrade.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Anker-SOL ... 855.0.html

The storage option makes a great product just that little bit more excellent.
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

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Re: Balcony solar PV

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We are seeing around 15,000mAh off the BigBlue single panel. It's nice to remain connected even if at phone charging, light & fan level. Not sure why but I keep expecting the PV party back home to come to a crashing stop. :roll:

Must have been that storm clouded my mind. 61% soc up from 25% start of day is making me smile. :D

How you guys doing, making out OK? We should start a end of season thread, track the island?


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Re: Balcony solar PV

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Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

House power usage:
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As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:48 pm
Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

House power usage:
Image
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
Cheers Chris n,. Appreciated. He who stepeth, stepeth on his own. 8-) He who rameth down throat will be given short shrift (eth).
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:50 pm
chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:48 pm
Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

House power usage:
Image
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
Cheers Chris n,. Appreciated. He who stepeth, stepeth on his own. 8-) He who rameth down throat will be given short shrift (eth).
Just to be clear I'm not saying I wouldn't do this in UK, but I would be aware of the implications and could mitigate against them. I also don't think an extra 800W is going to make much difference to a final circuit anyway but wouldn't do it for much more. I think an exception for such small systems could help with uptake of small domestic solar.
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:04 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:50 pm
chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:48 pm
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
Cheers Chris n,. Appreciated. He who stepeth, stepeth on his own. 8-) He who rameth down throat will be given short shrift (eth).
Just to be clear I'm not saying I wouldn't do this in UK, but I would be aware of the implications and could mitigate against them. I also don't think an extra 800W is going to make much difference to a final circuit anyway but wouldn't do it for much more. I think an exception for such small systems could help with uptake of small domestic solar.
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:48 pm
Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

House power usage:
Image
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
Ah, thanks for that I had no idea..

Are the brits being late to the party trying to regulate this after the horse has bolted like so many other things or is there a genuine issue there and it'll never take off?.

Its odd that the G98 doc (Which seems to cater for a vast array of solutions) can be submitted up to 28 days after an install. Which certainly sounds like the former above.
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Re: Balcony solar PV

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Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:01 pm
chris_n wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:48 pm
Tay wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm And yet nothing in the UK Amazon?.

Is somebody missing a trick here? I know there are a few people out there pushing the balcony solar such as Bimble and I presume other flogging the iffy Chinese tat YVC stuff. But is it that difficult to deal with the Britain post Brexit?

If I recall, I read somewhere after I was researching Hoymiles after JB mentioned it, that they were the first to get their kit approved for the UK (or at least some of it) on to some type approval test platform in the UK. But now I cant find it.

3 weeks to get my Hoymiles microinverter was a tad annoying but the quality and output makes up for that. So much so that I've just had to disconnect one panel and put it back on to the battery pack as I hate giving SSE or BG or whomever free energy.

After days of rain the sun came out and I presume the sky is nice on clean and free of particulates as the panels are working as if it was still summer...in fact, better, due to the cooler temps.

House power usage:
Image
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this method of connection is not permitted under UK regs. One supplier did advertise in UK and there are promo videos on YouTube but when they became aware it didn't meet regs they took it off the market for UK. The problem revolves around overloading final circuits as all of the supply for the circuit no longer goes through the circuit breaker. In Europe final circuits are all radials and the cable is slightly oversized for the rating on the breaker hence 600W being allowed in Germany and 800W being allowed in a lot of the rest of Europe. In Germany they are proposing to increase this to 800W hence the number of these that are marketed as upgradable.
Ah, thanks for that I had no idea..

Are the brits being late to the party trying to regulate this after the horse has bolted like so many other things or is there a genuine issue there and it'll never take off?.

Its odd that the G98 doc (Which seems to cater for a vast array of solutions) can be submitted up to 28 days after an install. Which certainly sounds like the former above.
The horse hasn't really bolted as none of the reputable suppliers will supply them to UK and they don't come with UK plugs.
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Cut euro plug off and wire into isolator
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