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Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:53 pm
by Lincs Robert
Hi,

I have an installation of 16 of these 250w panels. They seem to be working well & I’m pleased with them. They have been in for almost 12 years.

I’ve noticed that they seem to be available via an eBay seller for almost £500 each. Am I missing something here, or is there something special about these panels which makes them still valuable? I’m thinking of upgrading, as I can get 10 x 400 modern panels in less same space, and was wondering if there is any market for the old ones which would ease the financial burden.

Cheers- Rob

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:58 pm
by Fintray
Do you get FIT's payments on these panels?

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:05 pm
by Lincs Robert
I do, and I can see why you are asking the question. However, I understand that there was a recent ruling that generation equipment could be replaced with like for like capacity in the event of failure. My logic is that the replacement of 16 x 250 with 10 x 400 is such a like for like replacement as there would be no gross increase in capacity into the inverter - should failure occur of course.

I did look it up some months ago shortly after publication.

Rob

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:06 pm
by AGT
I bought similar panels 18months ago for £50 each
Garage roof repair planned for this quarter! And they will be up straight after

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:05 pm
by Caesium
Sorry what, £500 each for a 250W second hand panel? 500, not 50? This eBay listing must be a chancer hoping someone doesn't know any better as that's outrageous.

As per AGT I picked up a bunch of 230W and 265W panels recently for £45 each, I'll be getting the bulk of them rigged up next weekend. Pics to follow :)

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:42 pm
by Lincs Robert
Caesium wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:05 pm Sorry what, £500 each for a 250W second hand panel? 500, not 50? This eBay listing must be a chancer hoping someone doesn't know any better as that's outrageous.

As per AGT I picked up a bunch of 230W and 265W panels recently for £45 each, I'll be getting the bulk of them rigged up next weekend. Pics to follow :)
They are listed as new, but even so …. I’ve asked for further info.

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:44 pm
by dan_b
Nope, second hand panels are not worth £500, regardless of their provenance.

Edit - sorry just saw your post saying they're new. Even so they're still not worth that. You can buy brand new 400W panels for £300 these days.

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:45 pm
by Lincs Robert
dan_b wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:44 pm Nope, second hand panels are not worth £500, regardless of their provenance.
They’re listed as NEW, not used …..

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:57 pm
by Krill
dan_b wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:44 pm Nope, second hand panels are not worth £500, regardless of their provenance.

Edit - sorry just saw your post saying they're new. Even so they're still not worth that. You can buy brand new 400W panels for £300 these days.
For £200 Inc VAT, and less for 400W panels.

I wonder if the argument is like for like is interpreted for exact replacement and not as liberally as simply the output value.

Re: Sanyo / Panasonic HIT250 panels

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:03 pm
by Lincs Robert
Krill wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:57 pm
dan_b wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:44 pm Nope, second hand panels are not worth £500, regardless of their provenance.

Edit - sorry just saw your post saying they're new. Even so they're still not worth that. You can buy brand new 400W panels for £300 these days.
For £200 Inc VAT, and less for 400W panels.

I wonder if the argument is like for like is interpreted for exact replacement and not as liberally as simply the output value.
I do get it regarding the panels, I was just wondering if there was anything specific about this particular model which made them so special?

Regarding the Ofgem ruling, it’s plainly there available to view, dated Dec ‘21 I think. It specifically states that exact for like probably won’t be available due to equipment lifecycles and even discusses ways in which capacity increases could be dealt with - which is to contact your FiT supplier and ask for a % reduction in payment to match the same % increase in capacity.

Cheers