ASHP glycol smell
Re: ASHP glycol smell
Although it was my ground source loop, they used food grade glycol for that reason. Don't want poison going into the ground water.
I'm running my radiator pipes without any chemicals at all. VDI2035 standard. Glycol reduces the heat carrying capacity of the pipes. I'm not having to bleed air off the towel radiator any more and the tests seem to be coming back nicely for conductivity when I last ran them. If I have a power cut I have a plan to run the NIBE at roughly 5º temperature which will stop the pipes freezing. This will use very little power from the battery. If it all goes Pete Tong long term then I will drain everything.
I'm running my radiator pipes without any chemicals at all. VDI2035 standard. Glycol reduces the heat carrying capacity of the pipes. I'm not having to bleed air off the towel radiator any more and the tests seem to be coming back nicely for conductivity when I last ran them. If I have a power cut I have a plan to run the NIBE at roughly 5º temperature which will stop the pipes freezing. This will use very little power from the battery. If it all goes Pete Tong long term then I will drain everything.
Re: ASHP glycol smell
Anti-freeze valves are nowadays considered a better way of dealing with a power cut than glycol.
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
Re: ASHP glycol smell
" I'm not having to bleed air off the towel radiator any more...."
Does the glycol create gas in the system? I have to bleed air out of the towel rail on the top floor on an almost weekly basis, but no idea why - maybe glycol-related?
I'd definitely opt for an easier method to protect my ASHP instead of glycol if it's possible!
Does the glycol create gas in the system? I have to bleed air out of the towel rail on the top floor on an almost weekly basis, but no idea why - maybe glycol-related?
I'd definitely opt for an easier method to protect my ASHP instead of glycol if it's possible!
37kW PV, 60 Solar Vacuum tubes, 27kW Wood Pellet Boiler, 20kWh Pylon battery via Sofar ME3000 inverter, 18kW ASHP, 9kW GSHP
VW e-golf, Tesla S P85D
c.270 vacuum tube small commercial heating system +200kW pellet heating system with 4000litre thermal store
VW e-golf, Tesla S P85D
c.270 vacuum tube small commercial heating system +200kW pellet heating system with 4000litre thermal store
-
- Posts: 620
- Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:50 am
Re: ASHP glycol smell
The most likely cause of gas in the system will be rusting of any steel components resulting in hydrgen being produced.Glycol is considered non corrosive but flycol/water mix will cause rust just las water does.ivan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:09 pm " I'm not having to bleed air off the towel radiator any more...."
Does the glycol create gas in the system? I have to bleed air out of the towel rail on the top floor on an almost weekly basis, but no idea why - maybe glycol-related?
I'd definitely opt for an easier method to protect my ASHP instead of glycol if it's possible!
Last edited by Countrypaul on Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Posts: 2182
- Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:10 pm
Re: ASHP glycol smell
Air - or gas? Weekly bleeds say to me that either the system is repeatedly getting topped up with mains water (bringing with it dissolved air/gases) or there is corrosion happening somewhere, probably generating hydrogen.
I would try to either put a flame to the vented gas - or collect it (not mixed with air) and then do the same outsde!
A
2.0 kW/4.62 MWh pa in Ripples, 4.5 kWp W-facing pv, 9.5 kWh batt
30 solar thermal tubes, 2MWh pa in Stockport, plus Congleton and Kinlochbervie Hydros,
Most travel by bike, walking or bus/train. Veg, fruit - and Bees!
30 solar thermal tubes, 2MWh pa in Stockport, plus Congleton and Kinlochbervie Hydros,
Most travel by bike, walking or bus/train. Veg, fruit - and Bees!
-
- Posts: 620
- Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:50 am
Re: ASHP glycol smell
If it is hydrogen and you put a flame to bear in mind that it will burn blue/colourless so very difficult to see unles it is dark.AE-NMidlands wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:25 pmAir - or gas? Weekly bleeds say to me that either the system is repeatedly getting topped up with mains water (bringing with it dissolved air/gases) or there is corrosion happening somewhere, probably generating hydrogen.
I would try to either put a flame to the vented gas - or collect it (not mixed with air) and then do the same outsde!
A
Re: ASHP glycol smell
Air in the system is frequently caused by an expansion vessel issue. Either it isn’t pumped up or the membrane has perished. When the fluid warms up it expands and pushes a trickle out of the PRV, when it cools again it shrinks and pulls some air in through the PRV.AE-NMidlands wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:25 pmAir - or gas? Weekly bleeds say to me that either the system is repeatedly getting topped up with mains water (bringing with it dissolved air/gases) or there is corrosion happening somewhere, probably generating hydrogen.
I would try to either put a flame to the vented gas - or collect it (not mixed with air) and then do the same outsde!
A
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
Re: ASHP glycol smell
Next to the HP is the standard location. The logic is that glycol reduces efficiency, powercuts are pretty rare, and it takes a long power cut coinciding with subzero conditions to cause a problem anyway. Don’t forget that it is the HP itself you’re protecting…
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)