Energy Monitoring

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ecogeorge
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Energy Monitoring

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Can anyone recommend an energy monitoring system that will monitor grid use and solar production (happy to dedicate a circuit on CU) that can use wifi to view on phone .
I will not be installing a smart meter -i am capable of reading my own consumption.
Obviously money is an issue ............
George
1750w Vertical PV micro inverters
3800w almost horizontal/south
Aarrow Becton 7 Woodburner
Dream 3kw ASHP only connected to summer Pool.
Allotment heavy clay.
1.784kw Kirk Hill
0.875kw Derril Water
0.2kwWhitelaw Brae
1kw Harlow Hydro.
Oldgreybeard
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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Does your inverter measure the grid power as well as the PV power?

I get most of the key data from our battery inverter now, as that has a CT on the PV inverter output and another one on the incoming grid supply. That is all it needs to provide grid power, grid current, PV power and PV current, plus supply voltage. It spits all this data out from an RS485/Modbus port, and it's pretty straightforward to use that data to provide a useful energy monitor display.

My first go at this was to connect a Raspberry Pi, via an RS485 to USB converter, to the inverter and use some free software on the Raspberry Pi that used Grafana to serve a web page that any device on our home WiFi network could display in a browser. This was fairly easy to set up, although the display proved to be a bit too techy for my wife to easily interpret. I went on to set up another Raspberry Pi with Home Assistant, and use that to build an easier to use energy monitor.

Another option is Open Energy Monitor, not as cheap if you buy the ready built system, but very good, with lots of monitoring possibilities: https://openenergymonitor.org/
25 off 250W Perlight solar panels, installed 2014, with a 6kW PowerOne inverter, about 6,000kWh/year generated
6 off Pylontech US3000C batteries, with a Sofar ME3000SP inverter
AGT
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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Post by AGT »

Have a look at Shelley, they do some CT based modules.
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nowty
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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@ecogeorge, you got some solar now ?

How much you got ?
17.5kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
ecogeorge
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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Oldgreybeard wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:34 pm Does your inverter measure the grid power as well as the PV power?

I get most of the key data from our battery inverter now, as that has a CT on the PV inverter output and another one on the incoming grid supply. That is all it needs to provide grid power, grid current, PV power and PV current, plus supply voltage. It spits all this data out from an RS485/Modbus port, and it's pretty straightforward to use that data to provide a useful energy monitor display.

My first go at this was to connect a Raspberry Pi, via an RS485 to USB converter, to the inverter and use some free software on the Raspberry Pi that used Grafana to serve a web page that any device on our home WiFi network could display in a browser. This was fairly easy to set up, although the display proved to be a bit too techy for my wife to easily interpret. I went on to set up another Raspberry Pi with Home Assistant, and use that to build an easier to use energy monitor.

Another option is Open Energy Monitor, not as cheap if you buy the ready built system, but very good, with lots of monitoring possibilities: https://openenergymonitor.org/
I have several panels all connected via different inverters (several Chinese micros and traditional string type) i guess current monitoring via clamp only viable option ..... happy to dedicate a circuit but soft fruit and techy converters are out of my intelligence...........
George
1750w Vertical PV micro inverters
3800w almost horizontal/south
Aarrow Becton 7 Woodburner
Dream 3kw ASHP only connected to summer Pool.
Allotment heavy clay.
1.784kw Kirk Hill
0.875kw Derril Water
0.2kwWhitelaw Brae
1kw Harlow Hydro.
ecogeorge
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Location: Gloucestershire

Re: Energy Monitoring

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nowty wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:51 pm @ecogeorge, you got some solar now ?

How much you got ?
Approx 2kw on shed -almost horizontal -2 inverters -soladin and Power one.
Got 1.2 kw vertical on house and shed -share a 600w chinese inverter -wired in parallel - never see sun at same time.
260w verticle on front of house - 300w chinese inverter.....
George
1750w Vertical PV micro inverters
3800w almost horizontal/south
Aarrow Becton 7 Woodburner
Dream 3kw ASHP only connected to summer Pool.
Allotment heavy clay.
1.784kw Kirk Hill
0.875kw Derril Water
0.2kwWhitelaw Brae
1kw Harlow Hydro.
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nowty
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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Post by nowty »

ecogeorge wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm
nowty wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:51 pm @ecogeorge, you got some solar now ?

How much you got ?
Approx 2kw on shed -almost horizontal -2 inverters -soladin and Power one.
Got 1.2 kw vertical on house and shed -share a 600w chinese inverter -wired in parallel - never see sun at same time.
260w verticle on front of house - 300w chinese inverter.....
George

A pick 'n' mix eh, ;) , I'll put you down for an annual 1500 kWh. :mrgreen:
17.5kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
ecogeorge
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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and another 9 x 260w panels not yet installed.......... next yr.
George
1750w Vertical PV micro inverters
3800w almost horizontal/south
Aarrow Becton 7 Woodburner
Dream 3kw ASHP only connected to summer Pool.
Allotment heavy clay.
1.784kw Kirk Hill
0.875kw Derril Water
0.2kwWhitelaw Brae
1kw Harlow Hydro.
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Joeboy
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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ecogeorge wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm
nowty wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:51 pm @ecogeorge, you got some solar now ?

How much you got ?
Approx 2kw on shed -almost horizontal -2 inverters -soladin and Power one.
Got 1.2 kw vertical on house and shed -share a 600w chinese inverter -wired in parallel - never see sun at same time.
260w verticle on front of house - 300w chinese inverter.....
George
Much respect George, 🙏 👏 Any photos? Liking the varied style catching it where ye can.
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
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Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
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nowty
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Re: Energy Monitoring

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Post by nowty »

ecogeorge wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:06 pm and another 9 x 260w panels not yet installed.......... next yr.
George
Excellent. :mrgreen:

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17.5kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
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