Shenxing Battery , CATL new product

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Re: Shenxing Battery , CATL new product

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AlBargey wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:38 pm Thanks Joeboy, I've never been one for accepting info without being sceptical, especially from salespeople :lol: but I'm also happy to admit when my scepticism was unfounded.

But with such expensive transactions it's definitely a sensible starting point for anyone looking at buying new cells from the other side of the planet.

Happy to share my deep dive into it :lol:

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Re: Shenxing Battery , CATL new product

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AlBargey wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:26 pm Sorry @Colin for doubting your information! I found a video testing the new LF280K V3 @ 310Ah



So EVE really are confusing everything by still calling it LF280K! breaking the sectors whole naming based on Ah system :?

That will also now make it easier for the less honest Alibaba stores like Docan and the many others who rewrap B Grade cells and claim they're A grade, to use B grade 304's and claim they're the new 280 V3's :shock: (although the new stud pads are octagonal)

So buyer beware on Alibaba It's a shame as often B grade are absolutely fine for us as storage, if they're properly matched and batched, and sellers were just honest about it, because they're much more affordable.

The cell market is a bit in chaos already with re used cells and B grade rewrapped cells all over Alibaba claiming to be new A grade, how do you feel about this Colin, does Deriy use B grade and explain this?

GobalPower and Shenzhen Luyuan on Alibaba are both clear about whether the cells are A grade or B grade. EVE also sell direct, so only grade A from them. In the UK Fogster also sell cells and clearly state A or B grade, but they're expensive. I couldn't tell from the Deriy Alibaba store what was what, and there are hundreds of listings for almost identical cells, which is hard to navigate.

This is an explanation from Gobelpower:
High Speed Electric Vehicle (HSEV) = A grade new from manufacturer
Low Speed Electric Vehicle (LSEV) = B grade cells, rejected by manufacturer

"LSEV Grade cell, these cells usually did not pass the strict testing by the manufacturers and with a B-Mark code (or reprinted intact OR code by some sellers, this may be due to optical imperfections, higher self-discharge, lower capacity and/or higher internal resistance, Unfortunately the manufacturers don't explain which aspects are the reasons to mark a specific cell as B-Mark, we will do some sorting and matching work before using, and test the voltage and internal resistance (lR), capacity for the LSEV grade cells and discard cells with a nominal capacity lower than required..."
Hi

Sorry for the late reply , having a busy weekend
Some company selling the B grade cells and some are selling the A grade cells
We sell the cells with the test report from EVE, Which can proves that the battery are A grade
And the capacity of the new version battery , it reach 310ah+ or more , but still name it for 280K
The reason why they still do so also beats us

Since the EVE 280K already has the high capacity , the EVE 304Ah is not easy to find and buy now..

The battery with the B mark on it , from China, we got a different "story"
EVE wants to distinguish the real reseller and others
The one they have contract with, they supply the cells without the B mark while others are now

Hope it will be helpful
Colin Deng(Batterycolin)
Battery supplier for battery cells and pack
Email:guohed070@gmail.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-deng-2b4277238/
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