Intelligent Octopus Go

[Yuff]

Do we not suppose that Octopus development ppl will be monitoring this and every other discussion forum that mentions them?

I can't claim any more inside information about this than anyone else, but one of the MyEnergi support staff on the Intelligent Octopus Zappi Integration Facebook group says that Octopus are watching for examples of abuse.

Do zappi and the IOG tariff work with multiple vehicles?

[SimonSays]

Yes. I charge both my I-PACE and e-Golf. You set up for the larger battery of the two vehicles and then pro-rata the charge you need for the smaller battery. A bit of a faff, but I can usually get close to what I want when charging the e-Golf. I could probably automate this with Home Assistant if I could be bothered enough.

[Stinsy]

It still works for me.

Thus I am getting a 5pm to 5:30am continuous cheapslot from the whole house every night.

Except for tonight as my car is away from home.

Do we not suppose that Octopus development ppl will be monitoring this and every other discussion forum that mentions them?

The ease at which IOG can be gamed has been discussed openly for years and they haven't tightened it up yet. I get nervous though. This place is pretty niche but someone writing a clickbait news story that is published widely could get thousands of people gaming the system and this would force Octopus to take action.

I guess Octopus knows very well what we are up to, but it is a rounding error for them, so they don't care...

[Yuff]

It still works for me.

Thus I am getting a 5pm to 5:30am continuous cheapslot from the whole house every night.

Except for tonight as my car is away from home.

Do we not suppose that Octopus development ppl will be monitoring this and every other discussion forum that mentions them?

The ease at which IOG can be gamed has been discussed openly for years and they haven't tightened it up yet. I get nervous though. This place is pretty niche but someone writing a clickbait news story that is published widely could get thousands of people gaming the system and this would force Octopus to take action.

I guess Octopus knows very well what we are up to, but it is a rounding error for them, so they don't care...

On the Tesla motors forum they are all meaning about bugs in the new update but it looks to me as if they are trying to stop the ease of gaming IOG with unintended consequences.
I’m not sure it’s working properly though because I’ve turned the soc down in the octopus app and my Tesla app keeps on charging

[Stinsy]

On the Tesla motors forum they are all meaning about bugs in the new update but it looks to me as if they are trying to stop the ease of gaming IOG with unintended consequences.
I’m not sure it’s working properly though because I’ve turned the soc down in the octopus app and my Tesla app keeps on charging

Interesting!

Maybe they've updated how it interacts with Tesla car integration. Like I say, the app has always moaned at me if I set a slower charge rate in my iD4...

I hear that it is charging point integration where the rampant abuse is...

[Yuff]

Yes. I charge both my I-PACE and e-Golf. You set up for the larger battery of the two vehicles and then pro-rata the charge you need for the smaller battery. A bit of a faff, but I can usually get close to what I want when charging the e-Golf. I could probably automate this with Home Assistant if I could be bothered enough.

Is the zappi generous with off peak schedules?
I need to change the TM3 at the end of this month and a charger where o can charge multiple vehicles would be a lot more convenient but if I lose the extra off peak schedules it’s more beneficial to swap for a TMY LR.

[Stinsy]

Is the zappi generous with off peak schedules?
I need to change the TM3 at the end of this month and a charger where o can charge multiple vehicles would be a lot more convenient but if I lose the extra off peak schedules it’s more beneficial to swap for a TMY LR.

I don't have personal experience. However I am informed that you can tell the charging point you have whatever EV you like, eg a 120kWh Merc EQS. And you can tell the charging point whatever you like about the state of charge, so even if the car is on 75% you can tell the app you need to add 60% by morning. Octopus will then chose a charging plan accordingly...

Like I say, no personal experience, just what I hear...

(BTW what cars are you looking at? No option to keep the TM3?)

[SimonSays]

Is the zappi generous with off peak schedules?
I need to change the TM3 at the end of this month and a charger where o can charge multiple vehicles would be a lot more convenient but if I lose the extra off peak schedules it’s more beneficial to swap for a TMY LR.

I think it's the same as any IOG integrated car or charger. Ultimately there's a request for a number of kWh and Octopus creates a schedule to provide that.

As Stinsy says, Zappi can't determine state of charge, so when going through the integration process you select the Zappi as the integrated device and also a vehicle. You choose your car with the largest battery. In the Octopus app you then select a percentage of charge to add instead of a target charge percent. For instance, I have my I-PACE selected but I know that requesting a charge to add of 25% will take my e-Golf from just under 30% to around 85%.

[Yuff]

Is the zappi generous with off peak schedules?
I need to change the TM3 at the end of this month and a charger where o can charge multiple vehicles would be a lot more convenient but if I lose the extra off peak schedules it’s more beneficial to swap for a TMY LR.

I think it's the same as any IOG integrated car or charger. Ultimately there's a request for a number of kWh and Octopus creates a schedule to provide that.

As Stinsy says, Zappi can't determine state of charge, so when going through the integration process you select the Zappi as the integrated device and also a vehicle. You choose your car with the largest battery. In the Octopus app you then select a percentage of charge to add instead of a target charge percent. For instance, I have my I-PACE selected but I know that requesting a charge to add of 25% will take my e-Golf from just under 30% to around 85%.

Thanks Simon. I’ve been using the Tesla integration for a couple of years but I think charger integration will suit me better.
I’d better check which is the best charger to swap mine to….

[John_S]

I have a VW ID4 and a Wallbox Pulsar Plus (installed by Octopus). I can select target state of charge on both and I think it goes to the lower of the two.

Yesterday, the car had 15% left in the battery and I set the Wallbox rate of charge at 15amps, instead of the max of 32 amps and I set the target state of charge at 80% and a 0730 time of departure. I hoped for good chunk of bonus hours but my schedule started at 11pm with odd half hour gaps through to 0730. At 0730, this morning, the car was only charged to 60%, instead of the hoped for 80%. Not a disaster as I was only doing 30 miles this morning.

What am I doing wrong? How do I get more bonus hours?

John