Holy hog! I had 32 points for the last session.
Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
Nowty's pre saving session intervention worked, got 11872 points for the last session.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
100 x 47mm Navitron tubes (still being installed!) Now likely to be removed for more PV.
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
100 x 47mm Navitron tubes (still being installed!) Now likely to be removed for more PV.
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
Wow!
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
I made £11.36 now I need to see how much it cost me in peak 39p electricity
16 250w Trina panels
Voltronic Axpert Max 8Kw hybrid inverter
3 x Chinese 125Ah (19Kwh total) batteries
To be done, more panels and a wind turbine
Off Grid 20 out of 24hrs
Voltronic Axpert Max 8Kw hybrid inverter
3 x Chinese 125Ah (19Kwh total) batteries
To be done, more panels and a wind turbine
Off Grid 20 out of 24hrs
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
My father failed on the last Saving Session. My mum had some washing to do so I told her to do it in the early afternoon and try and use less between 5pm and 7pm.
When I asked her how she got on, she told me she turned some lights off in the afternoon and put the washing machine on at 5:30pm.
When I asked her how she got on, she told me she turned some lights off in the afternoon and put the washing machine on at 5:30pm.
16.9kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
Octopus have updated one of their FAQ's and now seem to be coaxing folk to use power earlier before the saving session rather than later.
https://octopus.energy/blog/saving-sess ... ulesofplay
"One final step: we have to adjust for your energy use on the day of the Session. This adjustment is a check to make sure you actually used some power at other times that day. It works by weighting your ‘normal energy use’ figure based on your readings from earlier in the day. If you use energy as normal, your normal use figure should stay the same.
But if, say, you switch off every plug on the morning of the Session and don’t get back til after its finished, your readings for the day of the Session will be unusually low, bringing your normal energy use down.
So even though your energy use during the Session is much lower than what you used at that time in the past 10 days, it’s not really lower than the energy you used during the day.
This means that some people who prepare for their Saving Session by switching off hours in advance might end up earning slightly less during their Sessions. We can’t change how we calculate this (it’s a requirement to be part of the grid’s project!) But, we have asked National Grid to consider changing the in-day adjustment calculation so it doesn’t negatively impact the Savers that prepare further in advance.
What should you do to avoid this?
Try to shift more of your peak energy to before the Session – e.g. try to run the washing and cook earlier rather than later – and avoid switching everything off hours ahead of time.
Couldn’t I just game the system by using much more power before the Session?
We can’t blame you for wondering! But the cost of using much more energy every day over Winter just so you can earn more during a few hours of Saving Sessions just wouldn’t add up favourably in the end."
https://octopus.energy/blog/saving-sess ... ulesofplay
"One final step: we have to adjust for your energy use on the day of the Session. This adjustment is a check to make sure you actually used some power at other times that day. It works by weighting your ‘normal energy use’ figure based on your readings from earlier in the day. If you use energy as normal, your normal use figure should stay the same.
But if, say, you switch off every plug on the morning of the Session and don’t get back til after its finished, your readings for the day of the Session will be unusually low, bringing your normal energy use down.
So even though your energy use during the Session is much lower than what you used at that time in the past 10 days, it’s not really lower than the energy you used during the day.
This means that some people who prepare for their Saving Session by switching off hours in advance might end up earning slightly less during their Sessions. We can’t change how we calculate this (it’s a requirement to be part of the grid’s project!) But, we have asked National Grid to consider changing the in-day adjustment calculation so it doesn’t negatively impact the Savers that prepare further in advance.
What should you do to avoid this?
Try to shift more of your peak energy to before the Session – e.g. try to run the washing and cook earlier rather than later – and avoid switching everything off hours ahead of time.
Couldn’t I just game the system by using much more power before the Session?
We can’t blame you for wondering! But the cost of using much more energy every day over Winter just so you can earn more during a few hours of Saving Sessions just wouldn’t add up favourably in the end."
Last edited by nowty on Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:01 am, edited 2 times in total.
16.9kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
The whole thing is typically stupid compared to the common sense stuff done elsewhere.
It feels like the whole scheme is just a stick to wave at generators.
It feels like the whole scheme is just a stick to wave at generators.
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
I just got my bill for December, turns out those crazy low gas tracker prices in early December were indeed accurate! I wonder what happened to cause the discrepancy...Joeboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:54 pmI have that for my area too. Huge disparity between the two. I'm going to go sunnyside up and assume I'm being charged 1.57p per kWh. FingersMrPablo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:42 pm The API returns an uncapped value, somehow I managed to roll over onto another 12 months at a 6p cap this summer.
http://mysmartenergy.uk/Tracker/North-W ... d-Cheshire is useful to see historical and current tracker prices, at least once you adjust your area. On a day like this I'm glad I'm still on the v1 tariff...
10x 405W JA Solar panels (4.05kWp) @ 5 degrees
3x 405W Longi panels (1.22kWp) @ 90 degrees
16.5kWh DIY LifePo4 battery
Solis inverter/charger
0.6kW Ripple WT
64kWh Kia E-Niro
3x 405W Longi panels (1.22kWp) @ 90 degrees
16.5kWh DIY LifePo4 battery
Solis inverter/charger
0.6kW Ripple WT
64kWh Kia E-Niro
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
3 days for me, same 1.59p. I think a discrepancy at Octopus and they honoured it?MrPablo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:53 pmI just got my bill for December, turns out those crazy low gas tracker prices in early December were indeed accurate! I wonder what happened to cause the discrepancy...Joeboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:54 pmI have that for my area too. Huge disparity between the two. I'm going to go sunnyside up and assume I'm being charged 1.57p per kWh. FingersMrPablo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:42 pm The API returns an uncapped value, somehow I managed to roll over onto another 12 months at a 6p cap this summer.
http://mysmartenergy.uk/Tracker/North-W ... d-Cheshire is useful to see historical and current tracker prices, at least once you adjust your area. On a day like this I'm glad I'm still on the v1 tariff...
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov
There was some admission by Octopus of a mistake, but I guess they had to honour their mistake. Mine was also cheaper on those days but not that cheap as I'm on the 11p capped rate.MrPablo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:53 pmI just got my bill for December, turns out those crazy low gas tracker prices in early December were indeed accurate! I wonder what happened to cause the discrepancy...Joeboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:54 pmI have that for my area too. Huge disparity between the two. I'm going to go sunnyside up and assume I'm being charged 1.57p per kWh. FingersMrPablo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:42 pm The API returns an uncapped value, somehow I managed to roll over onto another 12 months at a 6p cap this summer.
http://mysmartenergy.uk/Tracker/North-W ... d-Cheshire is useful to see historical and current tracker prices, at least once you adjust your area. On a day like this I'm glad I'm still on the v1 tariff...
16.9kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3