I'm not sure I subscribe to the idea of batteries having a limited number of cycles. Evidence points to temperature, calendar age, and deep discharging as being the key factors.
My stack is 5-years and probably a bit less than 2000 cycles old.
Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
5x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (12kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
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3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
5x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (12kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
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Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Which might be why Givenergy feel able to offer a 12-year unlimited cycle guarantee... (with a 4% floor. The next one claims to be 100% useable, but maybe they have just made it bigger and hidden the floor)
2.0 kW/4.62 MWh pa in Ripples, 4.5 kWp W-facing pv, 9.5 kWh batt
30 solar thermal tubes, 2MWh pa in Stockport, plus Congleton and Kinlochbervie Hydros,
Most travel by bike, walking or bus/train. Veg, fruit - and Bees!
30 solar thermal tubes, 2MWh pa in Stockport, plus Congleton and Kinlochbervie Hydros,
Most travel by bike, walking or bus/train. Veg, fruit - and Bees!
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
There are a few batteries that claim to be OK discharged to 0%. However in reality they just report “0%” when they are really at 5% (or whatever).AE-NMidlands wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:41 pmWhich might be why Givenergy feel able to offer a 12-year unlimited cycle guarantee... (with a 4% floor. The next one claims to be 100% useable, but maybe they have just made it bigger and hidden the floor)
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
5x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (12kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
5x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (12kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
The above calculation assumes that the charge discharge process is 100% efficient. You will need to allow up to 10-15% round trip losses. Say 2kWh or 30 p per day.wookey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:18 pm
Doing Stinsy's sums for my kit I get:
Capacity 16kWh
Useable capacity 16kWh
(EVE tell us things are rated at 100% cycles and there is no point leaving a bit at the ends on LFP - let's take that at face value even though we dn;t really know if it's true)
Cost to fill £1.12(although they've not had much of a workout yet, it being December).
Received from selling at 15p £2.40
Profit per day £1.28
Profit per year £467.20
Also, there will be some self consumption.