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Re: Intelligent Octopus Go

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Stinsy wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:00 pm
SimonSays wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:53 pm Behind the scenes, the scheduling is now completely different.

In the most expensive half hour slot I now see lots of little "mini slots" of energy like 0.13kWh, 1.2kWh, 0.35kWh starting and stopping at per-minute intervals, and the scheduling is a lot more dynamic overall. The couple of charges I've done overnight have changed quite markedly during the night.

I have some Home Assistant screenshots but it's all unformatted yaml. Can post these if you want, otherwise I'll try to format that card for future screen grabs.
I don’t get any of that. I alway set it an impossible target eg give it 8hrs to do a charge that would take 10hrs in order to get guaranteed cheap period.
And then turn the target back down to 10% at 23:30 when the fixed cheapslot starts. :whistle:
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Re: Intelligent Octopus Go

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nowty wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:19 pm
Stinsy wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:00 pm
SimonSays wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:53 pm Behind the scenes, the scheduling is now completely different.

In the most expensive half hour slot I now see lots of little "mini slots" of energy like 0.13kWh, 1.2kWh, 0.35kWh starting and stopping at per-minute intervals, and the scheduling is a lot more dynamic overall. The couple of charges I've done overnight have changed quite markedly during the night.

I have some Home Assistant screenshots but it's all unformatted yaml. Can post these if you want, otherwise I'll try to format that card for future screen grabs.
I don’t get any of that. I alway set it an impossible target eg give it 8hrs to do a charge that would take 10hrs in order to get guaranteed cheap period.
And then turn the target back down to 10% at 23:30 when the fixed cheapslot starts. :whistle:
I export at 9pm when the heating switches off, so I turn it down at 9pm.
A mixture of export and import overnight until 6am, then cheap slots needed
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Re: Intelligent Octopus Go

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Mine is all done through the ohme app....

Plug car in... See what sessions it gives me.

Change time for car to be ready by an earlier time as I always need a full charge to "100%" a lot sooner than it thinks and it usually gives me a full 8 hour slot!

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Looks like IOG has accessed Tesla charge data and syncs with it.
So if you get a schedule based on a 100% charge and turn the SOC down in the Tesla octopus adjusts the schedule accordingly :head-bang:
It also works the other way too, if you put the IOG charge up to 100% it ups the SOC in the Tesla to 100% :SOS:
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Ohme won't be long....

I've jinxed it by changing tariffs!
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It still works for me.

I set the Tesla to 100% SOC and the min charge rate of 5A.

At 5pm’ish I set the Octopus App to 100% for 4am and as long as the car is less than say 70% full I always get a 5pm to 4am continuous cheapslot.

Then at 11:30pm when the 6 hour fixed cheapslot starts, I change the Octopus App to 10% SOC and the car stops charging. But the 5pm to 11:30pm period already over still retains the cheap rate slots.

Thus I am getting a 5pm to 5:30am continuous cheapslot from the whole house every night. :twisted:

Except for tonight as my car is away from home. :evil:
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Re: Intelligent Octopus Go

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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:54 pm It still works for me.

Thus I am getting a 5pm to 5:30am continuous cheapslot from the whole house every night. :twisted:

Except for tonight as my car is away from home. :evil:
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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:54 pm It still works for me.

I set the Tesla to 100% SOC and the min charge rate of 5A.

At 5pm’ish I set the Octopus App to 100% for 4am and as long as the car is less than say 70% full I always get a 5pm to 4am continuous cheapslot.

Then at 11:30pm when the 6 hour fixed cheapslot starts, I change the Octopus App to 10% SOC and the car stops charging. But the 5pm to 11:30pm period already over still retains the cheap rate slots.

Thus I am getting a 5pm to 5:30am continuous cheapslot from the whole house every night. :twisted:

Except for tonight as my car is away from home. :evil:
It isn’t working like that today.
Octopus app moves the Tesla soc and vice versa.
If you move the Tesla soc back to 50% then octopus sets a new schedule

Edit: your method will still work
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Re: Intelligent Octopus Go

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sharpener wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:27 pm
Do we not suppose that Octopus development ppl will be monitoring this and every other discussion forum that mentions them?
I can't claim any more inside information about this than anyone else, but one of the MyEnergi support staff on the Intelligent Octopus Zappi Integration Facebook group says that Octopus are watching for examples of abuse.
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Yuff wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:17 pm Looks like IOG has accessed Tesla charge data and syncs with it.
So if you get a schedule based on a 100% charge and turn the SOC down in the Tesla octopus adjusts the schedule accordingly :head-bang:
It also works the other way too, if you put the IOG charge up to 100% it ups the SOC in the Tesla to 100% :SOS:
If I turn the charge rate down in my iD4 then the Octopus app gives me snotty messages!
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