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Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:00 pm
by AlBargey
Fintray wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:02 pm
I was in contact with Daisy at Docan
Good luck with Docan! Search the DIYsolar forum for fake re lasered cells from them.

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:31 pm
by Joeboy
AlBargey wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:57 pm Shipping will be slower and more painful than normal with the extra 40% time going round the cape of good hope - also means 40% fewer ships for transporting goods, hope the quotes aren't too bad.

War :cry:
Deriy have 1,000 units in EU warehouse. Co-incidence that I know that. Good point though on the Houthi rascals.

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:03 am
by Joeboy
The firs quote is in from Docan for shipping 15 units from China. Waiting on Deriy quote for shipping 16 from Poland warehouse.

I paid $1,988 for 15 Eve 280LFK's in Aug 22. That included shipping.

Docan are quoting 15 Eve 280LFK's V3's twin pole with extra capacity over my old Sept 22 EVE V2 units and the price is $1704.

That's a 14.3% reduction in price and a 10% capacity gain over Sept 22 price. All certification & test sheets from Manufacturer included 8-)

We'll see what Deriy come up with from Poland warehouse. They say they are batched as 4's so i'd need to buy 16. I can go with that if the shipping price makes a difference to the end price.

Colin, this is what you are up against in prices. :facepalm:

Also with Currency fluctuation...
Sept 22 price @$1.15 = £1,728
Jan 23 price @$1.27 = £1,341
A 22.4% cash reduction.

Using 48V and amp hours given we can price per kWh
Sept 22= £1728/14= £123.40 per kWh added storage
Jan 23 = £1341/15= £89.40 per kWh added storage

P.S AL of the Barge. The batteries go on the land train not round the cape. Not saying all but certainly my last set did. :oO: Took a while!
I had read about the re lasered cells a while back, didn't realise Docan were doing it? Jings! :shock:

Nowty, Any chance of a link to your upgraded battery isolator switches? I can easily tap into the current busbars on the system which then go back through the fused Frankenstein switch to the Pylontechs. Although i'd like some way to isolate the new stack from the busbar Hence a pair of upgrade isolators at the new build.

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:59 am
by nowty
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:03 am Nowty, Any chance of a link to your upgraded battery isolator switches? I can easily tap into the current busbars on the system which then go back through the fused Frankenstein switch to the Pylontechs. Although i'd like some way to isolate the new stack from the busbar Hence a pair of upgrade isolators at the new build.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005789736951.html

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:29 am
by Joeboy
nowty wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:59 am
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:03 am Nowty, Any chance of a link to your upgraded battery isolator switches? I can easily tap into the current busbars on the system which then go back through the fused Frankenstein switch to the Pylontechs. Although i'd like some way to isolate the new stack from the busbar Hence a pair of upgrade isolators at the new build.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005789736951.html
Thanks Nowty, looking at 80 dollar per unit shipped from Deriy. £1,259 at todays rate. Waiting for confirmation that they are V3's. I must have missed the firesales on the V2's!

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:27 pm
by Joeboy
Using 48V and amp hours given we can price per kWh.

Sept 22= £1728/14= £123.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 24 Docan = £1341/15= £89.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 24 Deriy = £1,259/15 with one spare battery = £83.93 per kWh added storage.

That's a 32% drop in per kWh price from Sept 22 to Jan 23. Yoicks! :shock:

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:27 pm
by Stinsy
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:27 pm Using 48V and amp hours given we can price per kWh.

Sept 22= £1728/14= £123.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Docan = £1341/15= £89.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Deriy = £1,259/15 with one spare battery = £83.93 per kWh added storage.

That's a 32% drop in per kWh price from Sept 22 to Jan 23. Yoicks! :shock:
This is why:


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Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:33 pm
by Joeboy
Stinsy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:27 pm Using 48V and amp hours given we can price per kWh.

Sept 22= £1728/14= £123.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Docan = £1341/15= £89.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Deriy = £1,259/15 with one spare battery = £83.93 per kWh added storage.

That's a 32% drop in per kWh price from Sept 22 to Jan 23. Yoicks! :shock:
This is why:


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I has zero eyeball on that! Happy days for me then. :)

Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:13 pm
by nowty
The 5 year chart is more telling.

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Re: Idiot's guide to a self build battery

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:15 pm
by Countrypaul
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:27 pm Using 48V and amp hours given we can price per kWh.

Sept 22= £1728/14= £123.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Docan = £1341/15= £89.40 per kWh added storage.
Jan 23 Deriy = £1,259/15 with one spare battery = £83.93 per kWh added storage.

That's a 32% drop in per kWh price from Sept 22 to Jan 23. Yoicks! :shock:
Are those prices really from last year or have you forgotten we started a new one on 1st January :evil: