Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Now we have official commencement on the 27th Nov,

I know there are no more guaranteed test sessions, but maybe there might be an initial shake off the cobwebs test event ?
27th / 28th look possible, especially the 28th, looking like low wind over Europe and we have 3 nuke turbines down.
22p (SS) + 15p (export) = 37p / kWh still interests me if I can flip it from 7p / kWh import. :twisted:
And low payouts might turn into more sessions. :xx:
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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DFS is now live but so far there are no takers by the main domestic suppliers, looks like a big boycott.Image
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Email in from Octopus, Saving Sessions are GO.

Less booty but I like the "There will be many more events", remember export payments will be on top of saving session payments. :twisted:

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I clicked not yet. They then ask why. :hysteria:
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Do we know what this year's bumper export rate will be?
p.s.
Just had my invite...
section 17 of the T&C says
If you also have an export meter associated with your import meter signed up to the Saving Sessions, you will be credited on your net reduction (import - export), in line with the NESO Demand Flexibility Service specifications.
so if simple import falls you get a credit, and I imagine that if you don't import then, an extra export will give an even bigger negative amount "consumed," so getting octopoints on top of the export rate?
pps signing up gives me
That's awesome!
Our 8 Octopus brains are working hard on the Saving Sessions that you deserve. We'll be in touch very soon.
whatever that means...
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AE-NMidlands wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:23 pm Do we know what this year's bumper export rate will be?

So if simple import falls you get a credit, and I imagine that if you don't import then, an extra export will give an even bigger negative amount "consumed," so getting octopoints on top of the export rate?
The rate will be whatever bids are accepted, probably around 20p to 30p / kWh as they will be traded off against extra gas generation.

And yes if you export you get both the "bigger negative credit" and the 15p export rate on top, so as I export anyway its still worth doing. But avoid exporting on a non saving session day during peak period as that will lower your baseline. Instead if you have IOG tariff, game cheap slots during peak period and increase your consumption as that will boost your baseline.
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Nice to see that mail in too. :D
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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nowty wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:20 pm
AE-NMidlands wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:23 pm Do we know what this year's bumper export rate will be?

So if simple import falls you get a credit, and I imagine that if you don't import then, an extra export will give an even bigger negative amount "consumed," so getting octopoints on top of the export rate?
The rate will be whatever bids are accepted, probably around 20p to 30p / kWh as there will be traded off against extra gas generation.

And yes if you export you get both the "bigger negative credit" and the 15p export rate on top, so as I export anyway its still worth doing. But avoid exporting on a non saving session day during peak period as that will lower your baseline. Instead if you have IOG tariff, game cheap slots during peak period and increase your consumption as that will boost your baseline.
Hi Nowty

Is the octopus working as it was previously. There was a period when octopus was altering my Soc in the Tesla but that seems to have stopped. I have tried pm’ing you but the message won’t send :head-bang:
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Yuff wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:08 am Hi Nowty
Is the octopus working as it was previously. There was a period when octopus was altering my Soc in the Tesla but that seems to have stopped. I have tried pm’ing you but the message won’t send :head-bang:
I don't think messages "Send" as such, they just become "sent" when they are opened or read...
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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nowty wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:20 pm
AE-NMidlands wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:23 pm Do we know what this year's bumper export rate will be?

So if simple import falls you get a credit, and I imagine that if you don't import then, an extra export will give an even bigger negative amount "consumed," so getting octopoints on top of the export rate?
The rate will be whatever bids are accepted, probably around 20p to 30p / kWh as there will be traded off against extra gas generation.

And yes if you export you get both the "bigger negative credit" and the 15p export rate on top, so as I export anyway its still worth doing. But avoid exporting on a non saving session day during peak period as that will lower your baseline. Instead if you have IOG tariff, game cheap slots during peak period and increase your consumption as that will boost your baseline.
I’ve seen a few people on Twitter getting very upset about the reduced rates. However free money never lasts forever and I’ll trade less money for more frequent/predictable any time.

Plenty see charging at 7p and discharging at 15p as worthwhile so anything above that is a bonus. And if you can rinse a decent baseline there is even more money on the table.

So I’m not as grumpy about 20-30p/kWh.
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