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Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:40 pm
by Stan

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 pm
by nowty
Massive ? :lol:
13 out of the 101 persons on the secret list have larger battery sizes that that. 8-)
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 120#p22664

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:57 pm
by Joeboy
nowty wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 pm Massive ? :lol:
13 out of the 101 persons on the secret list have larger battery sizes that that. 8-)
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 120#p22664
I didn't want to say..... :oops:

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:58 pm
by Stinsy
Yeah!

“medium sized”!

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 pm
by Oldgreybeard
That bloke from Artisan REALLY hacks me off, the bloke's a chancer, who's been trying hard to gain views on YouTube as a business for the past year or so, and is using more stupid clickbait facial expressions and video titles every week.

He also has some complete blithering idiots working for him, who are so clueless I'm surprised they ever got through their apprenticeships. When asked what size cable to use for a TT earth electrode one of his blithering idiots said it had to be 16 sq mm, despite the fact that at the very most that cable only needs to carry about 100mA (the true answer is that 2.5 sq mm is fine, just needs to be mechanically protected).

One of them damned near caused a major structural failure in a timber frame house, by chopping out about 30% of a structural support pillar, having already cut away (and not replaced) the essential vapour tight membrane (so that pillar will most probably rot out in a few years anyway). I got sent links to a couple of their videos by a friend, who sent me them as a laugh and an example of just how dangerous some trades people are.

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:29 pm
by MrPablo
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has found this fellow incredibly irritating to watch. The thumbnail expressions alone forced me to set YouTube to no longer recommend his videos.

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:56 pm
by Lincs Robert
Oldgreybeard wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 pm That bloke from Artisan REALLY hacks me off, the bloke's a chancer, who's been trying hard to gain views on YouTube as a business for the past year or so, and is using more stupid clickbait facial expressions and video titles every week.

He also has some complete blithering idiots working for him, who are so clueless I'm surprised they ever got through their apprenticeships. When asked what size cable to use for a TT earth electrode one of his blithering idiots said it had to be 16 sq mm, despite the fact that at the very most that cable only needs to carry about 100mA (the true answer is that 2.5 sq mm is fine, just needs to be mechanically protected).

One of them damned near caused a major structural failure in a timber frame house, by chopping out about 30% of a structural support pillar, having already cut away (and not replaced) the essential vapour tight membrane (so that pillar will most probably rot out in a few years anyway). I got sent links to a couple of their videos by a friend, who sent me them as a laugh and an example of just how dangerous some trades people are.
To be fair, on many occasions even when a smaller cable will suffice for electrical reasons, a much bigger size is used to ensure physical robustness of the installation. This is very true in the Petrochemical industry with external cabling. A 2.5mm cable really isn’t that strong in the scheme of things.

A couple of years ago I contacted him regarding an EV charger install I needed - he didn’t even reply to my email 🤐

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:57 pm
by Lincs Robert
nowty wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 pm Massive ? :lol:
13 out of the 101 persons on the secret list have larger battery sizes that that. 8-)
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 120#p22664
I’m # 14 as have just PM’d you my details 👍

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:06 pm
by nowty
Lincs Robert wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:57 pm
nowty wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 pm Massive ? :lol:
13 out of the 101 persons on the secret list have larger battery sizes that that. 8-)
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 120#p22664
I’m # 14 as have just PM’d you my details 👍
You were already one of the 13. :lol:

Even if you don't have it in your sig, loose lips sinks ships as they say. ;)

The list is so secret most don't even know they are on it. :twisted:

Re: Installation of a 23kWh home battery (retrospective)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:22 pm
by Oldgreybeard
Lincs Robert wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:56 pm
Oldgreybeard wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 pm That bloke from Artisan REALLY hacks me off, the bloke's a chancer, who's been trying hard to gain views on YouTube as a business for the past year or so, and is using more stupid clickbait facial expressions and video titles every week.

He also has some complete blithering idiots working for him, who are so clueless I'm surprised they ever got through their apprenticeships. When asked what size cable to use for a TT earth electrode one of his blithering idiots said it had to be 16 sq mm, despite the fact that at the very most that cable only needs to carry about 100mA (the true answer is that 2.5 sq mm is fine, just needs to be mechanically protected).

One of them damned near caused a major structural failure in a timber frame house, by chopping out about 30% of a structural support pillar, having already cut away (and not replaced) the essential vapour tight membrane (so that pillar will most probably rot out in a few years anyway). I got sent links to a couple of their videos by a friend, who sent me them as a laugh and an example of just how dangerous some trades people are.
To be fair, on many occasions even when a smaller cable will suffice for electrical reasons, a much bigger size is used to ensure physical robustness of the installation. This is very true in the Petrochemical industry with external cabling. A 2.5mm cable really isn’t that strong in the scheme of things.

A couple of years ago I contacted him regarding an EV charger install I needed - he didn’t even reply to my email 🤐
The regs mandate that the cable be mechanically protected for most electrode locations though, IIRC, so if the cable has to be in conduit anyway then I would guess that it doesn't really need any additional mechanical robustness by being oversized for the job. Certainly both of our earth electrode cables are in conduit. The one for the house is in a buried plastic conduit, the one for the garage is a short length of galvanised flexicon (the garage is around 30m away from the house).