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DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:09 pm
by NikoV6
Clearly, being an AC system PowerWall will not take DC directly.

However, as the DC generation from my solar array could be stored in a DC battery, then converted to AC by hybrid inverter. Surely its just a case of adding that inverter output to Tesla gateway in the same manner as the output of the current solar inverter.

Or is that noob talk? :lol:

Not an electrical specialist, I'm a mechanical engineer!

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:19 pm
by Fintray
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:09 pm Clearly, being an AC system PowerWall will not take DC directly.

However, as the DC generation from my solar array could be stored in a DC battery, then converted to AC by hybrid inverter. Surely its just a case of adding that inverter output to Tesla gateway in the same manner as the output of the current solar inverter.

Or is that noob talk? :lol:

Not an electrical specialist, I'm a mechanical engineer!
That would be my method of doing it.

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 pm
by Moxi
Mech Engineers rule!

:D

Moxi

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:26 pm
by NikoV6
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:19 pm
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:09 pm Clearly, being an AC system PowerWall will not take DC directly.

However, as the DC generation from my solar array could be stored in a DC battery, then converted to AC by hybrid inverter. Surely its just a case of adding that inverter output to Tesla gateway in the same manner as the output of the current solar inverter.

Or is that noob talk? :lol:

Not an electrical specialist, I'm a mechanical engineer!
That would be my method of doing it.
PylonTech US5000 4.8kWh for £1650ish looks good value unless your research has found better?

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:28 pm
by NikoV6
Moxi wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 pm Mech Engineers rule!

:D

Moxi
When I was in the RAF, we used to joke where's the leccy - normally sitting on the nearest radiator! :lol: :D

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:34 pm
by Fintray
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:26 pm
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:19 pm
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:09 pm Clearly, being an AC system PowerWall will not take DC directly.

However, as the DC generation from my solar array could be stored in a DC battery, then converted to AC by hybrid inverter. Surely its just a case of adding that inverter output to Tesla gateway in the same manner as the output of the current solar inverter.

Or is that noob talk? :lol:

Not an electrical specialist, I'm a mechanical engineer!
That would be my method of doing it.
PylonTech US5000 4.8kWh for £1650ish looks good value unless your research has found better?
I was thinking more along the lines of the 280A batteries in a series string of 16 and into a hybrid inverter.
For around £10K you should be able to get about a 54kWh battery storage and 2 x 5kW hybrid inverters.

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:35 pm
by nowty
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:28 pm
Moxi wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 pm Mech Engineers rule!

:D

Moxi
When I was in the RAF, we used to joke where's the leccy - normally sitting on the nearest radiator! :lol: :D
When I was doing my apprenticeship we used to have a joke about what the favourite song of a Fitter was.
Although we had some modified lyrics to the original. :lol:


Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:41 pm
by NikoV6
nowty wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:35 pm
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:28 pm
Moxi wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 pm Mech Engineers rule!

:D

Moxi
When I was in the RAF, we used to joke where's the leccy - normally sitting on the nearest radiator! :lol: :D
When I was doing my apprenticeship we used to have a joke about what the favourite song of a Fitter was.
Although we had some modified lyrics to the original. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:47 pm
by NikoV6
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:34 pm
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:26 pm
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:19 pm

That would be my method of doing it.
PylonTech US5000 4.8kWh for £1650ish looks good value unless your research has found better?
I was thinking more along the lines of the 280A batteries in a series string of 16 and into a hybrid inverter.
For around £10K you should be able to get about a 54kWh battery storage and 2 x 5kW hybrid inverters.
Hmm, could start off small and add to this then?

Can you link to where you could source please?

Re: DC Battery storage into Tesla Powerwall

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:50 pm
by nowty
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:19 pm
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:09 pm Clearly, being an AC system PowerWall will not take DC directly.

However, as the DC generation from my solar array could be stored in a DC battery, then converted to AC by hybrid inverter. Surely its just a case of adding that inverter output to Tesla gateway in the same manner as the output of the current solar inverter.

Or is that noob talk? :lol:

Not an electrical specialist, I'm a mechanical engineer!
That would be my method of doing it.
Going back to the original theme. :geek:

The problem with the 2nd AC coupled battery / hybrid inverter is getting it to work harmoniously with the Powerwall and stop them competing with each other.