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The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:55 am
by Colin Deng
Getting some samples of the sodium-ion battery ON THE WAY
New to this battery


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Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:10 am
by Joeboy
Colin Deng wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:55 am Getting some samples of the sodium-ion battery ON THE WAY
New to this battery


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I'd be interested in a price, expected lifespan and energy density in these units? Are they new to the market Colin?

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:12 am
by Colin Deng
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:10 am
Colin Deng wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:55 am Getting some samples of the sodium-ion battery ON THE WAY
New to this battery


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I'd be interested in a price, expected lifespan and energy density in these units? Are they new to the market Colin?
Hi Joe, Yes, brand new cells, we will have the sample this week , not having the price yet, also the MOQ will be need to confirm , also new to me lol

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:57 am
by Caesium
A shame they're small factor cylindrical cells rather than the chunkier prismatics we're using. A lot more faff to hook up.

Years back I used to consider scavenging 18650s to build an oldskool DIY powerwall. Glad I never bothered to be honest. You need hundreds, almost thousands. Using the 280Ah cells takes a fraction of the time, I'd probably still be soldering fuse leads to 18650s now.

Presumably bigger cells will be on their way, that's probably when I'd start to be interested assuming they outperform LiFePO4 for comparable prices. Not too concerned with energy density myself to be honest, I'm not putting these in cars after all. Although my utility cupboard is starting to get pretty full :D

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:35 am
by Colin Deng
Caesium wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:57 am A shame they're small factor cylindrical cells rather than the chunkier prismatics we're using. A lot more faff to hook up.

Years back I used to consider scavenging 18650s to build an oldskool DIY powerwall. Glad I never bothered to be honest. You need hundreds, almost thousands. Using the 280Ah cells takes a fraction of the time, I'd probably still be soldering fuse leads to 18650s now.

Presumably bigger cells will be on their way, that's probably when I'd start to be interested assuming they outperform LiFePO4 for comparable prices. Not too concerned with energy density myself to be honest, I'm not putting these in cars after all. Although my utility cupboard is starting to get pretty full :D
Using 18650 Battery to build the powerwall, it will need long time and hard work on it
With the prismatic cells will be way easier
For now, we got the sample of the SIB on the cylindrical cells now
But surely will have the prismatic cells for it , it will need to wait..

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:26 am
by nowty
I note its a very wide voltage range, totally opposite to LIFEPO4.

1.5V to 4V.

Do you have any charge / discharge verses voltage curves for the battery specification ?

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:36 am
by Colin Deng
nowty wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:26 am I note its a very wide voltage range, totally opposite to LIFEPO4.

1.5V to 4V.

Do you have any charge / discharge verses voltage curves for the battery specification ?
Just double check the data sheet
It does't have the curves shows
Wide voltage range, Yes, it is

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:50 am
by ecogeorge
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-ele ... 298.0.html

Sounds like there are here already .......
George

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:10 pm
by Colin Deng
ecogeorge wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:50 am https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-ele ... 298.0.html

Sounds like there are here already .......
George
Also have the prismatic cells for SIB
I will share it when we got the sample
Cheers!

Re: The upcoming sodium-ion battery

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:12 pm
by Sunrisemike
Seems to be a lot of development going on. How about Graphene Lithium Aluminium Ion battery?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3399528096930588