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CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:44 pm
by Stan

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:59 pm
by dan_b
That energy density is a huge leap forward.
But I have some questions.

What on earth is an "highly conductive biomimetic condensed state electrolyte"

And what's the timescale on this - makes no mention of when it'll actually be available commercially. Nor the cost...

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:33 pm
by Stan
….automotive grade version…..mass production this year.
Biomimetic process mimics biochemical process.
Price? Well it will be in huge demand which ensures a premium.

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm
by Mart
I watched a recent vid on the batts from Amprius, which suggest a 500Wh/kg energy density. The vid isn't negative, just a little skeptical, and suggesting they may not be available for a couple of years. But it points out that they have shipped prototypes to other companies for testing, and already(?) produce a 450Wh/kg version.

May be of interest?


Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:24 pm
by dan_b
What's the assumed energy density/kg of the current state of the art Tesla Lithium batteries, do we know?

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:42 pm
by Stan
dan_b wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:24 pm What's the assumed energy density/kg of the current state of the art Tesla Lithium batteries, do we know?
For the 4680 cell it depends on the source but is likely below 250Wh/kg.

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:50 pm
by nowty
We had a thread about it or similar back here,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =36&t=1990

I would not get too exited as I calculated it was circa 15 times the cost and it was not even new tech.

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:57 pm
by dan_b
Aah well remembered!

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:58 pm
by Stan
Amprius is a US company based in California. CATL is a Chinese company. Similar performance targets and timescales but different chemistries.

Re: CATL launches the condensed battery, 500Wh/kg

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:02 pm
by MoSTiE
Will it fit my lawn mower? :lol: