ASHP & triple glazing

Air source, ground source and associated systems for heating homes
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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It's been quite handy not having the EV here for a week. The lower suspension arms are being replaced under warranty so should have it back Friday.

The handy part comes from cleaner home use data.

Something like this
Charge stack overnight 30kWh
Solar generation 35kWh
Run Heat pump 11kWh
Export 40kWh

I guess the remaining 14kWh is in conversion losses, cooking and classic fm (its on loud). Oh aye, and a 2 man solar powered 3G installation. All the gear being used is dewalt battery powered with a huge Charging station that has absolutely no fear for me. :)

Kettle is on at least 8 times a day and the frying pan too. Also, to make £3.90 a day? :ugeek:

I like that, "a solar powered build". It's not so long ago we'd have been just about breaking even at this time of year. To be doing all this and stick a few quid into the Winter VB each day is a whole new very pleasant reality. :D
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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They were one glazing unit short on the van to complete both dormers so I get to see the method of how the trap windows will look while we wait for the glazing to arrive. Its ok, wind and water tight looks like. A bit non transparent though.

Once that dormer glazing unit is in, and cills, and final foam, AND finishing strips that completes the upstairs Southfacing. They'll then be starting in the big lounge South facing.

We only have one thermostat remaining in the house, on our bedroom rad. Turned it down last night to under 1.5. Only just got away with that (18 degs this morn in bedroom), will try it at 1 tonight. ASHP rad side now shutdown for 10hrs at start temp of 17.7degs.

Makes me wonder as to what Stinsy said. Will we actually get to a stage where body and transformer heat will have a tangible impact? My secret hope is to see a normal running 7kWh ASHP day, not bothered about the cop but just to see that little being needed will be great. An April cold snap test would be excellent. :ugeek:

That would be a 0.0035 value per sqmtr across the 200sqmtrs incl HW.
Costing at overnight price 49p
Or at half/half price allowing for solar generation for 12hrs 24.5p

The reality is of course negative costing and by a huge margin which i still can't really get me head to see as real. Writing it down here helps to get my brain across the line but i'll likely backslide! :whistle:

Enerphit (I promised myself I wouldn't go here) heating standard is 25kWh per Sq mtr across the year. That's a figure of 0.068 or 5MWh PA in our house.

I should be able to get down to a self invented qualification to myself of 5MWh PA actual cost but no chance of getting down to a space heating value of 5MWh PA. I'll be interested to see what the 1 year non chaotic figure is on the home? 2025-2026.

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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Sorry to read that some of the windows got damaged in transit, hopefully they can get them turned around quickly.

We had fantastic day down here.

Total generated yesterday: 61.24 kWh
Total exported yesterday: 67.08 kWh
Total imported yesterday: 29.46 kWh

That's my best ever daily generation.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Ronski wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:29 am Sorry to read that some of the windows got damaged in transit, hopefully they can get them turned around quickly.

We had fantastic day down here.

Total generated yesterday: 61.24 kWh
Total exported yesterday: 67.08 kWh
Total imported yesterday: 29.46 kWh

That's my best ever daily generation.
Congrats! That's absolutely brilliant, long may it rise. Our best day is generally in May, I hope you've still got headroom for growth? :xl:
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Thanks, my best month is also usually May.

We will certainly be generating higher amounts, I added an additional 6.8 kWp of panels last October
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Big glazing going in!

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Timber work has commenced on vanport. Tech drawings abound!

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Sadly Windows supply cocked up on the trapezoidal frames. So we'll only get so far with the job as it's a wraparound welded cill and largely dependent on that cill to build up from. This apparently happened last time too with a different company. Something about 30mm not being taken off? Anyway, we're still rolling along and glazing is a bitch! :lol:

Both Southfacing door sets will be in by end of play today...

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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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we have dormer windows that are currently wooden 2g units, and they're going to be replaced soon. Is it worth getting 3g units? we don't have ashp, and we don't have heat recovery ventilation, and the insulation could be better, but 3g will be the standard at some point right?! it is south facing, and the loft does get warm from the solar gain.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Crastney wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 1:33 pm we have dormer windows that are currently wooden 2g units, and they're going to be replaced soon. Is it worth getting 3g units? we don't have ashp, and we don't have heat recovery ventilation, and the insulation could be better, but 3g will be the standard at some point right?! it is south facing, and the loft does get warm from the solar gain.
The price difference is minimal compared to the acoustic and thermal gains. Where are you based?
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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This is a sad part. Brand new, fancy tech, fancy seals & completely junk, only good to be chipped & relifed.

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I've stopped the end of the job until we come back from Turkey on 25th April. I was OK with them installing the glazing units while we were away but this is now different with the wrong size frames. I'll be here to ensure all done and sealed in properly.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Joeboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 1:52 pm This is a sad part. Brand new, fancy tech, fancy seals & completely junk, only good to be chipped & relifed.

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I've stopped the end of the job until we come back from Turkey on 25th April. I was OK with them installing the glazing units while we were away but this is now different with the wrong size frames. I'll be here to ensure all done and sealed in properly.
Did they notice the frames were wrong before or after they took the old ones out?
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