ASHP & triple glazing

Air source, ground source and associated systems for heating homes
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1787
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1141

Post by Fintray »

Joeboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:18 pm They've said with no hesitation that they'll get new doors ordered. I've said to swmbo to take a look when back from Edinburgh and we'll go from there.Im OK with them but I'm a daftie.
Image
The positive is that when the wind blows the seal will be even better.
All looking good though, might come round for a shufty once all finished if that would be ok?
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 8954
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1142

Post by Joeboy »

Bugtownboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:59 pm No probs Joe.

Must say, all of the windows/doors fitted look crisp and modern - apart from the thermal and sonic improvements, the general look will be so much better - apologies, but your replaced windows were showing their age.
They were crap. Bought at a price I could afford when doing the big lounge. Crap. :lol:

An alternate view of my wonderful new door. Yes indeedy. :D

Image
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 8954
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1143

Post by Joeboy »

Fintray wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pm
Joeboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:18 pm They've said with no hesitation that they'll get new doors ordered. I've said to swmbo to take a look when back from Edinburgh and we'll go from there.Im OK with them but I'm a daftie.
Image
The positive is that when the wind blows the seal will be even better.
All looking good though, might come round for a shufty once all finished if that would be ok?
Always welcome mate. Dead right about the seal. I am of course now doubting myself that we requested inward openers and the associated guilt..... but I asked she who holds the brain and straight away 'yep inward'.I also remember the 2 conversations. Fairly bucketing down now. I'm glad I chased them to fit that last glazing unit in dormer before knocking off tonight.

I have been wrapped up in Uw figures and sealing etc so hadn't given that much thought to them looking good. It's a nice, bonny, low maintenance surprise.
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1787
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1144

Post by Fintray »

Joeboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:12 pm
Fintray wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pm
Joeboy wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:18 pm They've said with no hesitation that they'll get new doors ordered. I've said to swmbo to take a look when back from Edinburgh and we'll go from there.Im OK with them but I'm a daftie.
Image
The positive is that when the wind blows the seal will be even better.
All looking good though, might come round for a shufty once all finished if that would be ok?
Always welcome mate. Dead right about the seal. I am of course now doubting myself that we requested inward openers and the associated guilt..... but I asked she who holds the brain and straight away 'yep inward'.I also remember the 2 conversations. Fairly bucketing down now. I'm glad I chased them to fit that last glazing unit in dormer before knocking off tonight.

I have been wrapped up in Uw figures and sealing etc so hadn't given that much thought to them looking good. It's a nice, bonny, low maintenance surprise.
Always best defer to SWMBO. :xl:
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 8954
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1145

Post by Joeboy »

2g black hole type situation with wbs in reflection
Image

3g with me
Image

Mental eh?

Image

Image
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Bugtownboy
Posts: 1015
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:35 pm

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1146

Post by Bugtownboy »

My two-pennerth.

Ours, as previously stated, are inward opening; the doors are west facing, we live at the top of the E-W valley slope, albeit only 60m.

We are surprisingly exposed but the doors/door seals have not been an issue - even the ones in our bedroom, ie, first floor.

As stated earlier, my concern would be loss of of internal space.
Ronski
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:11 pm
Location: Kent

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1147

Post by Ronski »

When I installed our bi-folds I went with them opening outwards, but with hindsight they would have been better opening inwards, but only due to restricted space on the decking, and the doors would have folded back onto the internal walls, so more out of the way.

The kitchen doors needed to fold outwards, otherwise they would get in the way, I did buy some proper magnets like the bi-folds have but after 7 years I still have not fitted them, they would need suitable brackets for the magnet to go on the wall, and well, the bungee elastic works :roll:

I'm surprised they didn't get you sign off on the design/direction of opening, all though it was a little different with mine as I installed them and was buying direct from the manufacture.

PS Another 60 kWh day.
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 8954
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1148

Post by Joeboy »

Ronski wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:28 pm When I installed our bi-folds I went with them opening outwards, but with hindsight they would have been better opening inwards, but only due to restricted space on the decking, and the doors would have folded back onto the internal walls, so more out of the way.

The kitchen doors needed to fold outwards, otherwise they would get in the way, I did buy some proper magnets like the bi-folds have but after 7 years I still have not fitted them, they would need suitable brackets for the magnet to go on the wall, and well, the bungee elastic works :roll:

I'm surprised they didn't get you sign off on the design/direction of opening, all though it was a little different with mine as I installed them and was buying direct from the manufacture.

PS Another 60 kWh day.
We spoke about a sign-off sheet. I think they should develop one and a procedure for both sales, client and window Co. I reckon the doors will cost them about £800 trade if swmbo isn't liking them. The rest of what has happened is time only but that can have its own financial impact in a stacked schedule.

I gave some advice on how to ensure the risk is minimised going forward and working with other companies. It's all a learning curve.

That's ten in and four to go down the line. Plus a front door.
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 8954
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1149

Post by Joeboy »

Next morning at 06.10. It's been colder through the night, 8 degs outside now. The difference between the two systems on the calibrated glazing edge spot/trim is a full 3 degs. No heating on, house is sitting at an even 17.5 degs, no solar gain, no wbs, it's not cold.

There are 3 cills to fit today unless they bring the front door which I offered yesterday to narrow the impact on their future return to site timeline. If they don't show up with the front door then the house is as sealed and upgraded as possible for now.

As SWMBO is with daughterly in Edinburgh this gives me a chance to see it run on its own so to speak. 18mtrs sq glazing has went in with 10mtrs sq remaining and a crap front door to be upgraded.

Will solar gain lift it enough without the ashp and can the home as is unfinished store it? :D

Doors will be open for glazers or removed for replacement, ashp heating system was closed down yesterday, swmbo hasn't tanned half the hwt, 1/3rd at least glazing to go in. Yet there is some small window (hah) for anticipatory joy in this unstable, incomplete worksite.

3G is a winner lads, it's not a luxury. It's more like the correct answer to an existing question.

:xl:

I'll leave this reminder here and we'll see what it does over the next couple of days.

Image
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
User avatar
Stinsy
Posts: 3487
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:09 pm

Re: ASHP & triple glazing

#1150

Post by Stinsy »

When I installed my 3G everyone told me it was dumb! They told me they’d read that you lose so much solar gain that it is a net-negative, that the additional pane doesn’t make any difference, that I was wasting money., etc.

However I’ve never regretted the decision. And the intangible comfort gain has been far greater than the marginal increase in insulation would suggest. 3G removes the cold draught caused by a flow of cooling air running down the inside of the window.
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger

(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
Post Reply