ASHP & triple glazing

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NoraBatty
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:22 pm
NoraBatty wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:12 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:52 pm
Lucks got f**k all to do with it! :D Sorry, sorry, I regressed there.. You are right though and thank you for the kind words. It is getting there and it is a quality end product. Eventually. :D

P.S If they had finished on Thursday as planned that would be bang on 9 months since the thread opened. Might see a year yet!
Obviously i meant as long as you are aware, not arent :facepalm:

Well no, luck probably is not anything to do with it. Alot of sense on your behalf.

I think many of us would have been a bit out of our depths here.

When our double glazing went in for the old house they had to cut the wooden frames out, and the single panes just shattered as they tried to take them out whole. Luckily there were no issues but there is no coming back once that happens and a unit is sized wrong unless the problem is spotted beforehand.
You've hit the nail on the head Nora. Due diligence ot the lack of it is the problem here. They are not working as tightly as they could. Likely because the outcome isn't catastrophic if they get it wrong. It's just "oh well, order another one" and the customer carries the burden of the inconvenience.

I don't know who is paying for the new glazing unit but it's costing considerable time for the installers for sure. I'll be having a chat tomorrow to ensure the order has been placed at the right size with no Chinese whispers.

Hey, if they get it wrong this time they can try, try again and hopefully the profit on the job flips negative? Nothing like working for nothing to tighten focus going forward 😌

The donkey tonight was well outside his comfort zone and has shown no sign of learning from his mistakes. What ye meant to do with that? For me the answer is the paragraph above this one..
Aye its probably a desk jockey who used to do the graft and probably helps out on occasion to everyones chagrin, but has become too accustomed to office work to actually remember what is needed, whereas it is the guys in the field who have to fit the bastid things, and take the flack.
Seems like the guys are at least measuring unit and opening before getting the recip saw out and really buggering it up though.

No excuses and lessons learnt the hard way. If the desk jockey doesnt pull his socks up in the future i expect the lads will be pushing back regularly just to highlight how many feck ups they are averting.

Much like Ronski's and our experience, there are those that dont care, and those that do, and dont want their name associated with shoddy work. Its those people that improve companies as much as they can, and take no time creating better ones out of the ashes if they are overruled.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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One of the guys closer to my age said yesterday how embarrassed he was at the multiple ways it had went wrong across this job. The young fella tried to fall on his sword as he hadn't measured the glazing unit before ripping out the old one.

I did the best I could to alleviate his guilt as it wasn't on him and the units should have been checked by donkey as part of their qa/qc. (I see the irony in those 4 letters in relation to donkey).

At the end of the day I thanked the fitters individually and as a group for their hard work. Made sure they heard that and that I appreciated all they'd put in to get us to this stage.

A new day today. Ronski's one is a hard go too, a horrible position to be put in as with your HP Nora.

Was awake at half 5 as well as many other times through the night. The rage has ebbed and I can see donkey clearly. He is what he is and is cut out of the remainder of the job. For that I am grateful. "Stupid doesn't know it is stupid", it just is. :whistle:

Sadly in this case that he is also a liar and looks for the easiest way out. Weak and lacking in moral fibre I call it. :whako:
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Joeboy wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:47 am Weak and lacking in moral fibre I call it. :whako:
You wouldnt be wrong!
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A slightly odd day in that a lot of work was done but there's not much to show for it at a first glance although a LOT has went on. I took the time to type a letter early this morning laying out my expectations and communication path going forward. All accepted and being acted on. Will edit with a couple of photos in a minute or two. A little bit more outside work to do to complete then its inside cills, I've already painted the insets so I can get the blinds up with No1 Son on Friday. :D

I have once again been very impressed with the attention to detail from under the skin of the build & up. They've really done well. :xl:

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There's a little bit of excellence in how they've married the old plastics to the new and upgraded the look as they went.

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the temptation is strong to buy a couple of BIG eyeball transfers and see how they look.

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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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What with the heat, solar gain and single person HW living we hit a new PB for power use on the ASHP over a 24hr window.

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Not sure if that's repeatable but a hell of a surprise. 8-)

This morning it is 18 degs downstairs and 19.5 upstairs. Heating has been off for days and as you know back of house wide open.

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Looks like we are neutral to self heating from about about 9 to 11 degs outdoor temp and up. Final window surround sealing today hopefully and I'll track that neutral figure/ home behaviour.


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200ltr HWT.
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WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit
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