More Renewable Shenanigans at Nowty Towers

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Fintray wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:20 pm
Hi Nowty, it was pretty straightforward to install the only bit that was difficult was feeding the pipes through the hole in the window frame whilst lifting the indoor unit into place, apart from that it was reasonably simple.
I think I agree there, my first one was not too bad as it was ground floor, but the second one was high up, second floor over a stairwell and I did not think it though enough but just about managed it. Once the pipe has gone about a meter through the wall, there was no going back. :?
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Stinsy wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:58 am
nowty wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:16 am I'm interested to know if others agree to my opinion that the F-Gas regulations banning us DIY'ers are not only a joke, but a barrier to ditching the gas.
I agree fully. However the powers that be see DIYers as bumbling fools leaving dangerous situations in their wake and qualified professionals as artisan journeyman perfectionists. The reality however is that often DIYers do better quality work because they have time and patience to do the job properly, whereas in the real world a “professional” often does a quick and dirty job due to incompetence or economic pressures.

They’ve relaxed the rules on DIY electrical work over recent years so maybe there is hope…
Echoes my experience. Seen lots of dodgy work done by supposed "professionals". The snag is that there seems to be no policing of standards of workmanship at all, plus there is a relative shortage of decent tradespeople, so we're left with loads of barely competent people doing work without regard for the quality of it. At least most fairly keen DIY'ers will probably have some pride in their work, and want to do things so they look neat and tidy.
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nowty wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:51 pm
Fintray wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:20 pm
Hi Nowty, it was pretty straightforward to install the only bit that was difficult was feeding the pipes through the hole in the window frame whilst lifting the indoor unit into place, apart from that it was reasonably simple.
I think I agree there, my first one was not too bad as it was ground floor, but the second one was high up, second floor over a stairwell and I did not think it though enough but just about managed it. Once the pipe has gone about a meter through the wall, there was no going back. :?
It would be much easier if the indoor unit had about a metre of pipe (so enough to go through the wall) then do the connections to the larger length of pipes on the outside, but realise that having the metre of pipe on the indoor unit would be difficult for packaging, etc.
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Fintray wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:09 pm It would be much easier if the indoor unit had about a metre of pipe (so enough to go through the wall) then do the connections to the larger length of pipes on the outside, but realise that having the metre of pipe on the indoor unit would be difficult for packaging, etc.
Mine had about 600mm or so of pipe, the bit on the indoor unit was pretty much the same as the width of the recess on the back of it, where it was folded up in the packaging. I found this length of pipe was just enough to go through the wall with a bit to spare. I'd not have enjoyed trying to feed a long run of pipe through the wall whilst trying to manhandle the indoor unit up on to its mounting plate. I made the pipe connections off under the bears paw bit of trunking on the outside, fairly easy, but I should have tightened the unions up a bit tighter than I did, as one subsequently developed a very, very tiny leak.
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Oldgreybeard wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:35 pm
Fintray wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:09 pm It would be much easier if the indoor unit had about a metre of pipe (so enough to go through the wall) then do the connections to the larger length of pipes on the outside, but realise that having the metre of pipe on the indoor unit would be difficult for packaging, etc.
Mine had about 600mm or so of pipe, the bit on the indoor unit was pretty much the same as the width of the recess on the back of it, where it was folded up in the packaging. I found this length of pipe was just enough to go through the wall with a bit to spare. I'd not have enjoyed trying to feed a long run of pipe through the wall whilst trying to manhandle the indoor unit up on to its mounting plate. I made the pipe connections off under the bears paw bit of trunking on the outside, fairly easy, but I should have tightened the unions up a bit tighter than I did, as one subsequently developed a very, very tiny leak.
I think the pipe on the indoor unit would have allowed me to do as you did if I could have taken out at the right rear but I needed to take the pipes out at the left rear to come through the frame.
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Has anyone got one of these to work with node red and tuya?

I can do some commands via Alexa in node red but Alexa can't control various things like changing mode. It seems able to only control on/off, eco on/off, temperature setting and ionisation on/off.
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Fintray wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:04 pm Thought I'd join our southern cousins with the (self installed) A/C but more likely to be used in heating mode up here.

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Excellent, maybe in a couple of years here.. Will watch with interest for the performance figures especially in Winter. Using it as inexpensive ashp?
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Joeboy wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:25 pm
Fintray wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:04 pm Thought I'd join our southern cousins with the (self installed) A/C but more likely to be used in heating mode up here.
Using it as inexpensive ashp?
Hi Joe

Yes that's the idea to see how it performs over winter to keep the chill off the conservatory.
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Fintray wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:32 pm
Joeboy wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:25 pm
Fintray wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:04 pm Thought I'd join our southern cousins with the (self installed) A/C but more likely to be used in heating mode up here.
Using it as inexpensive ashp?
Hi Joe

Yes that's the idea to see how it performs over winter to keep the chill off the conservatory.
Spectacular idea, it'll be grand!
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A slight chill in the air this morning at Nowty Towers, normally that would never happen as the GSHP would heat the radiators if it was cool enough early morning. But I have the timer to the GSHP heating currently turned off as I am preparing to use the A2A heatpumps instead.

First turned them both on, too hot :shock: , but at least I have finally tested the upstairs unit on heat mode and it works. :lol:

Very cloudy and cool drizzly conditions here, only 500w coming in on the solar but battery stack nicely at around 90% full. Now just got the downstairs one running and its only using 600w with more than enough heat coming out. 8-)

Finally got to see the condensate coming out of the outdoor unit, :geek:
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