ASHP & triple glazing

[Moxi]

We have just got back to the cottage after taking the kids out for a meal at table table in town, my six year old thinks it’s sophisticated eating there. Anyway, we were sat eating and chatting when all of a sudden there whole place erupted to a tonal alarm which instantly reminded me of one of the Cold War era fast reaction unit scramble alarms we might see in the public information broadcasts of the time.

I don’t mind admitting that as a child I was acutely aware that a bad man might suddenly start a nuclear war at any moment and I would die. It’s left a mark on me all my years and the current shenanigans with the prat in Russia doesn’t help my well being one little bit so when the alarms went off in the restaurant I nearly had a fit.

Having a cup of tea now and putting it all to the back of my mind. Funny how a sound can stir up memories isn’t it.

Hope everyone get through the next 24 hours unscathed.


Edit Do you think the system will be energised on Monday then JB ?
Moxi

[Joeboy]

We have just got back to the cottage after taking the kids out for a meal at table table in town, my six year old thinks it’s sophisticated eating there. Anyway, we were sat eating and chatting when all of a sudden there whole place erupted to a tonal alarm which instantly reminded me of one of the Cold War era fast reaction unit scramble alarms we might see in the public information broadcasts of the time.

I don’t mind admitting that as a child I was acutely aware that a bad man might suddenly start a nuclear war at any moment and I would die. It’s left a mark on me all my years and the current shenanigans with the prat in Russia doesn’t help my well being one little bit so when the alarms went off in the restaurant I nearly had a fit.

Having a cup of tea now and putting it all to the back of my mind. Funny how a sound can stir up memories isn’t it.

Hope everyone get through the next 24 hours unscathed.


Edit Do you think the system will be energised on Monday then JB ?
Moxi

Sorry to hear about the noise reaction. I remember the early 80's and it's bleak outlook. Helped deaden my softer side. Maybe not great but handy.

The guys say mibbees aye, mibbeess naw for Monday. I'd like it to be yes as SWMBO is at my heels but I want 100% of the job so a day extra won't matter now. We'll .

Personally, I'm betting Tuesday. It's not been easy as one of the techs Mum died in the latter 1/2 of the job and I'd say he's been extremely distracted throughout.

No great surprise but the impact of the extended timeline is now on me here in my home.

There's a chat coming or a personal visit by me to the owners of company as they are absolutely excellent in the quality of install and finished product but the days that have accrued I won't carry financially beyond 2 days + materials for the pipework upgrades...Even then I'm being kind as there have been a LOT of phonecalls, late starts etc.

At the very least they need an apprentice or more pro support staff.. They are NOT getting max efficiency from their workpool. I'd still highly recommend them as the quality and attention to detail is as good as I could expect and that's from an avid watcher of heatgeeks & urban plumber. They took the time to show me on the floor how far they have extended the 28mm pipes. I literally couldn't ask for more. And that's the quality from a man with family loss.

[Moxi]

Let’s hope it is Monday to aid a return to harmony. Regardless I am sure that once the heat is flowing and the house is back to a satisfactory level of cleanliness and decor that it will all be forgotten.

My fingers are crossed for Monday

[Joeboy]

Let’s hope it is Monday to aid a return to harmony. Regardless I am sure that once the heat is flowing and the house is back to a satisfactory level of cleanliness and decor that it will all be forgotten.

My fingers are crossed for Monday

Thanks Moxi, we had a good clean up yesterday and I painted up the side of one radiator and covered the floor holes (packed with insulation) now that it's a wall exit rad. Small things yet we turned a corner there and swmbo was calm again.



WBS has been a godsend as have the remaining SH's, kept it civilised.

[Moxi]

It’s still amber warnings here but after yesterday it seems so much more normal and we took 2 yo Freddie for his swimming lesson. While he and mum were doing that me and the other two boys went to the swings and had half an hour in the fresh air, then on the way back to the car I collected some fallen deadwood and snapped it in to stove lengths - home now and the stove has been lit for the first time in ages to warm up on free fuel.

Started a bit of a tidy up outside and everything looks more or less as reported before so repairs can be done over a short period and now that most bits are back where they should be it feels less of a wild weekend, just got to hope everyone who lost their power get back on grid promptly now - last I heard there were 33,000 homes in Wales without power so around 3.3% of the Welsh population without power at the peak - rough man math assumes 3 people per home and 3 million population

Moxi

[Moxi]

I will be very interested to hear how you get on with the vertical rads once the system gets going JB.

Moxi

[Joeboy]

I will be very interested to hear how you get on with the vertical rads once the system gets going JB.

Moxi

As am I! I've kept an eye on power consumption. If ev is not charging we use around 80kWh per day to heat home, charge stack and heat/dehumidify van.



The graph for centre of the house has been quite consistent on days the outside doors are not all open. Anything above 3 degrees outdoors and the SH's handle it well. It needs human intervention in a cold spell for an extra hour across 'the fleet' but surprisingly at what they have done for us. The weather compensation software should null out the graph and I'd hope to see a drop in consumption with the cop.

That's counter to what many experience as power consumption rises on ashp installation but we're already there the last couple of years with the SH's. The 80kWh days are about 5 degree days so I'll keep that in mind for when we are finally on!



Thursday should be the first day of true running with the home heat soaked from ashp. That's based on firing up tomorrow. Fingers .



Running 80kWh days with no ev charge it breaks down to something like this.
35kWh stack
12kWh HWT
33kWh SH

If we can hit a cop of 4 for the rads that 33 should drop to 8kWh. A cop of 3 for hwt would be 4kWh consumption. That would drop the day consumption to 47kWh.

I look forward to seeing how far off the mark I am with that guess. 5degs outdoors, no EV, 47kWh round-trip, 19degs in the house. Try out Fintrays 0.4 set point.

Lastly, adding bigger radiators in two places to keep space spots we value added £1,000 to the bill. The bigger rads defo come at a price premium although I do think they've got an Arthur C Clarke monolith vibe.

[Joeboy]

This event should have been a bigger deal for us but instead it was literally just a blip in passing. On the way to a cleaner new place.

I must say though, it was not easy to get away from gas. The game is set these last 100 years that you use it. Society is bent towards it as a whole in products & structure.

Anyway, for the record. Woohoo!!

[Stinsy]

This event should have been a bigger deal for us but instead it was literally just a blip in passing. On the way to a cleaner new place.

I must say though, it was not easy to get away from gas. The game is set these last 100 years that you use it. Society is bent towards it as a whole in products & structure.

Anyway, for the record. Woohoo!!

There is a new estate being built near us. I drove past the other day and there was a line of houses with plumes of water vapour coming out of each one. What are new-builds still connected to the gas grid? Why are the boilers improperly set up from new?

I'd love to get off of gas myself. That standing charge is a thorn in my side!

[Ronski]

Joeboy, nice, hope to there myself next year, gas hob changed to induction hob a few months back, ASHP hopefully next year. I'll be posting a thread or two soon. Out of curiosity why is the gas pipe insulated?

Stinsy, totally agree on the first point, same goes as to why they don't all have solar. But surely plumes of water vapor shows they are working in condensing mode???