Central heating

Air source, ground source and associated systems for heating homes
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Re: Central heating

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Joeboy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:56 pm
Fintray wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:30 am
Joeboy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:38 am Feck!

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Better get used to it! :lol:
Trying! :D
As an aside, our arrival back home electric consumption was a peak of 80kWh through the charge window. It took a lot to bring the building up to temperature. Since then (1 week) we have dropped back to 60kWh per charge window as I've tweaked the SH's and battery has settled out. I am quite happy with that result. No Nov Octopus competitions though?
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Re: Central heating

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Our overnight consumption is usually around 5kWh to 6kWh, unless (like last night) I top up the car (last night we used 11.6kWh). That's charging the battery to 75%, if it needs it (last night it didn't, thanks to all the sun yesterday morning, which also heated the hot water).

Heating still not come on here, yet, house is at 21.6°C this morning, though, so we came pretty close to it coming on last night. Can't be long before the heating fires up for the first time, and when it does it will just about double our normal (non-car charging) overnight consumption.
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Re: Central heating

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Joeboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 am No Nov Octopus competitions though?
I heard that Octopus gave away a free "Power Hour" on Tuesday to select customers not me though. And I'm also not on the get-rewarded-for-using-less-peak-electric thing either.
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Re: Central heating

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Stinsy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:06 pm
Joeboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 am No Nov Octopus competitions though?
I heard that Octopus gave away a free "Power Hour" on Tuesday to select customers not me though. And I'm also not on the get-rewarded-for-using-less-peak-electric thing either.
Boo hiss! :(
16.6kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 11MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
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Re: Central heating

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Joeboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:21 pm
Stinsy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:06 pm
Joeboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 am No Nov Octopus competitions though?
I heard that Octopus gave away a free "Power Hour" on Tuesday to select customers not me though. And I'm also not on the get-rewarded-for-using-less-peak-electric thing either.
Boo hiss! :(
I missed out on the power hour too. :evil:
https://octopus.energy/powerhour/
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Re: Central heating

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Do you think it is possible that they (NG and suppliers) are starting to target their audience to incentivise the "average" consumer and thereby omitting "engaged and aware" customers from the rewards package?

I would presume that it's very easy for the suppliers to assess smart meter readings and pick out the heavy users at the peak times to target them to change their behaviours for a reward?

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Moxi wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:06 pm Do you think it is possible that they (NG and suppliers) are starting to target their audience to incentivise the "average" consumer and thereby omitting "engaged and aware" customers from the rewards package?

I would presume that it's very easy for the suppliers to assess smart meter readings and pick out the heavy users at the peak times to target them to change their behaviours for a reward?

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Basically it is like those schemes where schools give naughty kids expensive electronic goods for being slightly less naughty, while the kinds who are always good get nothing!
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Re: Central heating

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Moxi wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:06 pm Do you think it is possible that they (NG and suppliers) are starting to target their audience to incentivise the "average" consumer and thereby omitting "engaged and aware" customers from the rewards package?

I would presume that it's very easy for the suppliers to assess smart meter readings and pick out the heavy users at the peak times to target them to change their behaviours for a reward?

Moxi
Thats pretty much what Octopus are doing with their flavour of the National Grid incentive.
https://octopus.energy/saving-sessions/
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Re: Central heating

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A momentous day, the heating came on for the first time for a few hours last night. Made for a very high level of consumption overnight, just over 16kWh, although about 7.5kWh of that was the battery re-charging, as yesterday we only generated about 2kWh in total. The heat pump drew an average power of about 800W for just over 6 hours, so a bit under 5kWh in total, and more than we need in terms of stored heat (this always happens at the start of the heating season until it settles down). The house is a bit toasty this morning, so in all probability the heat pump won't come on again for a few days, as the floor slab is now sitting at 23.3°C and it's turned mild again, 14.5°C outside this morning.
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Re: Central heating

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Impressively low level of energy usage considering the heat will last you several days. A testament to the house construction!
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