Why bother with Air Source Heat Pump

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Landlord
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Why bother with Air Source Heat Pump

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Now that the Domestic Renewable Heat Incentive ends on March 31st why bother to get something installed?

I was thinking about having an Air Source Heat Pump installation but will miss out of £7,000 of Gov repayments due to the scheme ending.

I could still have the install and then suddenly find in 12 months they announce another scheme.

Hardly an incentive to install is it.
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No one paid for me to put central heating into my house!


You could probably find a plumber and electrician to fit it cheaper than in the scheme anyway.
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The money from these “schemes” goes straight into the pockets of the installers. The cost of solar dropped spectacularly as soon as FiTs ended. The cost of a BEV charging point was the same with/without the grant…

A heat pump is a very simple device, basically a big fridge compressor. There is no reason the cost is as high as it is currently other than rampant profiteering by the suppliers/installers.

Won’t be long before you’ll be able to buy/install a heat pump for a few grand.
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£6k plus fitting (and any new rads etc) for a huge 17kW system

https://www.tradesparky.com/solarsparky ... ses-valves

Would have got me £7,000 in rebates off Gov over 7 years.

Just needs an MSC Registered installer.

So the unit would have cost me MINUS £1,000 under the Scheme - Id have been paid to have it.

I'd have needed it installed either way to ensure correct sizing etc.
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Landlord wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:07 pm Just needs an MSC Registered installer.
That's the killer, I bought an ex display GSHP as new for £1000 and fitted it myself. No RHI payments for me even though it works as good as an MCS one.

Thread about the project here, https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... f=17&t=487
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That's the killer, I bought an ex display GSHP as new for £1000 and fitted it myself. No RHI payments for me even though it works as good as an MCS one.

Thread about the project here, https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... f=17&t=487
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I went to an x forum sale and paid £100 for a lkw (3kw to water) air to water heatpump..... use for hr a day in mornings (economy 7) to take chill off 3 bed semie and during day in summer to heat 8' blow up pool . Cant fault it ......
Turned on this morning -display said 4c (temp outside) within 40 mins rads were 45-50c -makes me smile -magic !!
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Stinsy wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:03 pm The money from these “schemes” goes straight into the pockets of the installers. The cost of solar dropped spectacularly as soon as FiTs ended. The cost of a BEV charging point was the same with/without the grant…

A heat pump is a very simple device, basically a big fridge compressor. There is no reason the cost is as high as it is currently other than rampant profiteering by the suppliers/installers.

Won’t be long before you’ll be able to buy/install a heat pump for a few grand.
Totally agree with you on this one. What I've been saying for years.
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ecogeorge wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:14 pm I went to an x forum sale and paid £100 for a lkw (3kw to water) air to water heatpump..... use for hr a day in mornings (economy 7) to take chill off 3 bed semie and during day in summer to heat 8' blow up pool . Cant fault it ......
Turned on this morning -display said 4c (temp outside) within 40 mins rads were 45-50c -makes me smile -magic !!
George
I remember your excellent thread on the DIY project, now unfortunately shredded in the past, I really enjoyed it. :(

Maybe you can re-wet our memories with a couple of pics of the main bits if you still have them. :)

So glad its all still working fine for you, and just think you haven't paid some MCS bloke £10k for it. :mrgreen:
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I remember your excellent thread on the DIY project, now unfortunately shredded in the past, I really enjoyed it. :(

Maybe you can re-wet our memories with a couple of pics of the main bits if you still have them. :)

So glad its all still working fine for you, and just think you haven't paid some MCS bloke £10k for it. :mrgreen:
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look tomo .........been a hard and dry week . Chilean red to the rescue.......
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1750w Vertical PV micro inverters
3800w almost horizontal/south
Aarrow Becton 7 Woodburner
Dream 3kw ASHP only connected to summer Pool.
Allotment heavy clay.
1.784kw Kirk Hill
0.875kw Derril Water
0.2kwWhitelaw Brae
1kw Harlow Hydro.
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ecogeorge wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:29 pm look tomo .........been a hard and dry week . Chilean red to the rescue.......
George
Yes !, its Australian Cabernet - Merlot helping me get over the Covid tonight, much to SWMBO's despair. :lol:
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Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
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GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
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