Europe's largest grid-scale battery energised

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Re: Europe's largest grid-scale battery energised

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One of my quoted investments, GORE STREET ENERGY STORAGE FUND PLC (GSF) is doing one over twice the size, 200MW in the UK in Heysham, but might not be operational till 2026. :twisted:
https://www.gsenergystoragefund.com/con ... 022/311022
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Mart wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:55 pm Probably best leaving the economics to the market, but seeing as how most BEV battery factories seem to use 30GWh as their blueprint, it occurred to me, that just one of those could provide the UK's intraday storage if focused on (just as an example) LFP stationary batts.

So, I wonder how much buying/building one of those would cost the Gov?

[In reality, this would probably ock up the free market economics, but just a ponder.]
Bad form to reply to myself, but thought it worth throwing in this article from today about V2G, since in the example above, where I suggest that that factory could steadily meet our intra-day storage needs (based on LFP's being good for 17yrs) so reaching the estimated 500GWh figure, it might be better if we got the storage for free (almost no CAPEX as its a by-product of the transportation revolution) and only had to pay a fee to BEV owners for their leccy, or offer incentives to get them to mop up excesses.

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nowty wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:35 pm One of my quoted investments, GORE STREET ENERGY STORAGE FUND PLC (GSF) is doing one over twice the size, 200MW in the UK in Heysham, but might not be operational till 2026. :twisted:
https://www.gsenergystoragefund.com/con ... 022/311022
It's incredible how these schemes are rolling out now. I guess we had to reach a sweet spot in pricing, plus of course there's no economic sense in rolling out storage till there's enough excess on a regular enough basis to make it viable - you'd be the expert on that constantly balancing more gen to more storage.

Couple of thoughts spring to mind, firstly folk back around 2010-2015 calling domestic PV, silly little sub 4kW installs, and secondly a comment 2015(ish) on a news article about storage, saying 'get back to me when they are installing Gigawatt hours',

sometimes folk struggle to comprehend the potential scale when lots of little is added together. ;)
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Oldgreybeard wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:35 pm
Tinbum wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:31 pm I'm guessing this was more costly than normal due to groundworks to lift everything to protect from flooding.
Costs a lot, reducing flood risk damage. I had to build our house about 1.5m higher than I wanted to because of the flood risk assessment. At a guess it increased our groundworks bill by around 15%.
Yes, I'm building a new house and then knocking down our old one because we get flooded at times. Thankfully I'm doing the build myself, long covid permitting.
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