UK Nuclear Fleet

[Joeboy]

This news piece from yesterday may be of interest. It shows how storage is being deployed, or projects/plans without storage are now being considered for co-location with storage. And follows in the claims of both the PV and on-shore wind industry bodies, who've always claimed that storage will be added to new schemes, or retrospectively to older ones, once viable.

UK ROUNDUP: FRV, TagEnergy finance 366MWh, SSE acquires solar sites with co-location potential

A good quick read, a few years back we were bemoaning the lack of speed in the uptake of grid battery storage and here it is now, nice.

Yep, I think we may have reached a tipping point. I don't pretend to understand the full details, nor economics, but in general I think the process is roughly, that you need to add RE, then you need some excess, then you need a large enough amount of excess, then on a regular enough basis, and finally cost effective storage. Once that happens, you roll out storage and rinse and repeat.

As RE gets cheaper, it helps with the scale and regularity of excess, and falling storage costs 'attack' the problem from the other direction.

But for now, interconnectors will mess this process up a bit, but all in a good way, eventually.

Incredible how interesting batteries have become, funny ole world.

It is indeed, swills post on a nodal grid was a good read and logical modification of the current system. There should be three interconnects at least leaving Scotland to England as well as to NI, Norway and Holland. No politics or pricing, these things should be in and the fleet in Scotland never being curtailed.

[dan_b]

Are they all Tesla Megapack systems? Sure looks like it doesn't it.

This news piece from yesterday may be of interest. It shows how storage is being deployed, or projects/plans without storage are now being considered for co-location with storage. And follows in the claims of both the PV and on-shore wind industry bodies, who've always claimed that storage will be added to new schemes, or retrospectively to older ones, once viable.

UK ROUNDUP: FRV, TagEnergy finance 366MWh, SSE acquires solar sites with co-location potential

[dan_b]

Also worth noting that these grid-scale batteries are not just there as "dumb storage" for when there's too much wind and we want to hold off burning gas for a bit until the wind blows again.
They're just as valuable, if not more so, for frequency stability services - providing rapid (basically instant) injections or cessation of power as and when required, over and over again to balance the network/grid. The sort of thing "spinning reserve" would also be used for.

[Ken]

Mart,
Totally agree with your postings.

Much of what we say is already being done in countries where wind and solar are more efficient the best eg being the state of S Australia where PV is twice as productive and space is not an issue. S.Australia has already shown that it can run for days using techniques that we will end up using. A few weeks ago they temporarely became an isolated grid after a interconnector when NSW failed and showed they could continue( but it is their summer).

Many other countries with higher RE and particular PV efficiencies and space eg Spain will reach their RE goals much easier and sooner than we will.

[Mr Gus]

Butchers used to throw away pigs trotters & chicken feet until recent chinese & afro-caribbean immigrants started asking for it, then what was once a freebie for our dogs (or very cheap) became an expensive commodity that had to be reserved...

No market till you create one, ..& people need & want enough energy to keep lights on & prices low, so I didn#t get why it is pished away, especially in light of conflict, growth, swap selling within the european market via our growing network of demand feeding inter-european (& us) interconnectors

+1 in agreement with Mart & KEN.

[Mart]

Looks like the nuclear fleet output has halved to just 2GW since Saturday.

[nowty]

Looks like the nuclear fleet output has halved to just 2GW since Saturday.

All scheduled outrages, either refuelling or statutory inspections.
There is a reactor out at Hartlepool to repair something but thats even been planned in.
Better to get these things done during the summer months.

https://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power- ... y-statuses

We seem to be burning some coal and are near full on importing to compensate. It will be interesting to see how high the gas goes up when the solar drops off later but the wind is set to ramp up into the evening.

[Mart]

Looks like the nuclear fleet output has halved to just 2GW since Saturday.

All scheduled outrages, either refuelling or statutory inspections.
There is a reactor out at Hartlepool to repair something but thats even been planned in.
Better to get these things done during the summer months.

https://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power- ... y-statuses

We seem to be burning some coal and are near full on importing to compensate. It will be interesting to see how high the gas goes up when the solar drops off later but the wind is set to ramp up into the evening.

Thanks Nowty.

My bold - freudian slip, or typing finger slip?

[nowty]

Looks like the nuclear fleet output has halved to just 2GW since Saturday.

All scheduled outrages, either refuelling or statutory inspections.
There is a reactor out at Hartlepool to repair something but thats even been planned in.
Better to get these things done during the summer months.

https://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power- ... y-statuses

We seem to be burning some coal and are near full on importing to compensate. It will be interesting to see how high the gas goes up when the solar drops off later but the wind is set to ramp up into the evening.

Thanks Nowty.

My bold - freudian slip, or typing finger slip?

A typing freudian slip pehaps.