John Oliver on corporate ‘net zero’ proposals: ‘We cannot offset our way out of climate change’

[Mr Gus]

That seems crazy, ..different world & tech or bad, bad planning.

[Oldgreybeard]

That seems crazy, ..different world & tech or bad, bad planning.

Very, very normal then, the technology to allow direct dial from private networks to the GPO network just wasn't that widespread. Most companies then still had switchboard operators, who manually patched calls to and from the GPO network to their internal network, with patch cords.

[Mr Gus]

I don't think even pye / philips cambridge had that degree of restrictions even in the 70's for late night workers.

[Oldgreybeard]

I don't think even pye / philips cambridge had that degree of restrictions even in the 70's for late night workers.

When late night working you would call the switchboard and ask them to leave your extension patched to the GPTN, so you could make and receive calls without involving the switchboard. The snag with doing that was that the building probably had a 100 or more internal phones and maybe half a dozen GPTN lines to the outside world, so having one internal extension permanently patched to the outside world, even when the line wasn't in use, mostly wasted a line. Fine with an empty building, not fine when there were lots of others wanting to make an outside line call, or receive one.

[Mart]

Slight digression, but the potential for 'carbon capture' in Scotland is simply vast. Returning much of the land to the ancient pinewood forests would be 'nice'. Much of the clearing is for grazing (sheep), and maintaining hunting, such as grouse shooting. So the potential is amazing.

[Posiitive / negative - is that the deer population will need even more culling, as it's a bit out of control, making it hard for new forestry to get established. Re-introducing wolves (and possibly bears) would help with this.]

Edit - Needs pointing out that Scotland is really the RE engine for the UK, putting the rest of us a bit to shame.

[GarethC]

Don't suppose you've seen a study of how much could be rewilded? Be very interesting.

[Mr Gus]

Replanting (forestry) in scotland is a very heavy, messy task by the modern machinery used scarring land that likely what seems to be forever has been part of your roadtrip, likely 30-40 years landscape before felling & replanting, & forestry is lines of trees, not natural seeding & gowth, how do we go forward as commercial forestry is presumably working in rewilded areas too?

The occasional visitor has got to get their head around the land use & appearance cycle, which churns up land, does this mean land based wind turbines will be restricted as a result of rewilding? ..I hope not

Scotland is a logical choice, but more planting needs to be bolstered in all areas of the uks depletion, all eggs in one basket is b011--k5 & limits other forms of growth in scotland,, (ie other areas need to accept responsibility rather than dumping everything on scotland because apparently "there is space enough"

Uk Woodland growth (as it would be) needs to keep pace & animal underpasses / overpasses whilst expensive need to be planned into any road expansion, the concrete road dividing intersection killing grounds that trap wildlife are suicide runs & corpse gatherers.

Sticking everything in scotland disconnects the prats of these lands even further from nature & denies scotland growth potential in other aspects.

[Fintray]

Sticking everything in scotland disconnects the prats of these lands even further from nature & denies scotland growth potential in other aspects.

Hey, you watch who you are calling prats!

[Mr Gus]

For context, & Milktray fintray...
"prats" ..sleepwalking self obsessed, non eco minded, energy guzzling persons for whom beyond their "manor" may as well be a map stating "here be monsters" etc

Did I say anyone on here!? ..ooh eck, no!


..While I remember, yeserdays radio4 "costing the earth" should be on listen again, co-op turbine in bristol area that hopefully is self sustaining via its "men in sheds" visits , teaching & implementation to use profits to drive down energy use via instantpots airfryers & insulation type moves..

Anyone here near Brizzol got an ear to the ground on this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001fckz

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006r4wn

on tonight 9pm if you are ale to listen, ...yes, ripple are on this programme too!

[Mart]

Hiya Gus, not dumping the job on Scotland, it's because the vast forests have been cleared (centuries ago) for wood fuel, grazing, and hunting. So Scotland has enormous potential for carbon capture, if it chooses to rewild and bring back the Caledonian forests.

Just pointing out, that yet again, Scotland has potential, greater than most of the UK. And the good news is that they seem very minded to make good use of their natural resources going forward.

I believe the idea behind this isn't so much for wood production, but actual rewilding using an appropriately (ancient) mixed number of trees / seedlings. Additional benefits include boosting Pine Marten numbers, and the protection they bring to Red Squirrels (by catching and eating the larger greys), boosting their numbers too, an environmental BOGOF.

The main problem however, is that there is now so little tree cover (in parts), and so many deer, that rewilding almost certainly requires fencing to allow it to get established, which in turn means huge cost, v's more simple seed scattering. Plus a lot of the Scottich land is owned for huge hunting estates.

Edit - extra problem for trees to get re-established is the burning of land, which prevents seedlings from getting established.


Randomly picked article looking at some of the plans:

Woodland expansion across Scotland