Effect of cold on the body

[Oldgreybeard]

Usually there is something needing doing, so putting on an anorak and going outside for some exercise - or just doing the vacuuming - soon gets you warm!
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Quickest way to heat our house if it does get a bit chilly is to use the old mains powered vacuum cleaner. Ten minutes of using that will get the whole house toasty, as the thing is like a fan heater. We had to buy a cordless vacuum when we first moved in, as we quickly learned that running a mains one caused the house to get too warm.

[MrPablo]

offtopic, but connected, & if it stops a few folk buying xmas crap when at a loss as what to do.

Orvis plaid flannel shirts thru to xxl for around £14.99 if you know anyone going to uk costco.
chest pockets, & handwarmers concealed along the side seam.

Comfy, cosy, a smidgen of smooth fleece for sleeves & neck wearing one righr now, seeing as winter enere kick is not limited just to the forum this winter.

American site specs...
https://www.costco.com/orvis-men%e2%80% ... 45609.html
my cut off swing tag label says "pinestreet plaid"
Nice warm layering, good brand name, fairly heavyweight by todays standards.

(big neck, broad shoulders, xxl for me, fits well)
Orvis are a 5% pre tax back to environmental causes company with a good outdoors / fly fishing association.

Sitting here unheated at 16c in shirt & T & shorts having been a few hours in sub 13c ..comfortable!
Good work / leisure "tinkering attire"

Ive bought two for wear n' wash foresight & will be getting a few more now theyve been tested.

Good timing on this Mr Gus, I was in Costco when I saw your message. Just picked up one for myself, as soon as my wife saw it and realised how good it was she decided I'd have to go back for a small one for her.

Good quality and not a bad price at all, thanks for the heads up.

[Mr Gus]

That makes me "warm inside"

I'm quite a fussy sod thus when I see a deal I share it just in case, the shirts will be likely going soon (on rotation) as they've likely been there for nigh on 2 months, ..Ive got to be quick un case they get dropped like the fantastic columbia breathable pants I wear on the glacier / hikes in the summer, ..gutted!I

In American costco stores these are a regular item, nice that theyve brought them in here too.

Wash the shirts cold as you dare.

My wife did exactly the same too.

**dont forget your litre of maple syrup**

[richbee]

Awful piece of journalism, enabling awful "science".

Tested wearing shorts and short-sleeved t shirt? This is meaningless, until they test people wearing appropriate clothing.

The BBC has become little more than a mouthpiece over the past several years, a real shame.

I agree the journalism is awful, but he science certainly isn't.

Finding and showing the effects of cold at just 10C is worthwhile, but explaining how that relates to the real world is almost completely mssing from the article. Most people do not have a strong science background therefore need an explanation of what the results mean to them How much difference does wearing a pair of trousers and a thick jumper make - rerunning the experiment and showing how much longer it takes to cool down to the same level (if we do) would give people much more useful information. In the very least showing that if you are only going to be up for an hour bwfore going to bed is it worthwhile putting you heating on? (Obviouly there are many other factors to take into account to answer that). The article has clearly dumbed down the science to the level the journalist feels most people can understand but without giving more than the ver basc implication.

That's what I was thinking - some research to quantify the effects of eg. trousers, and jumper(s) would have improved it greatly.
I've taken to wearing 2 jumpers and keeping the heating set at 17 in my office to cut down on oil heating (we normally have it set at 18)

[Stinsy]

Awful piece of journalism, enabling awful "science".

Tested wearing shorts and short-sleeved t shirt? This is meaningless, until they test people wearing appropriate clothing.

The BBC has become little more than a mouthpiece over the past several years, a real shame.

I agree the journalism is awful, but he science certainly isn't.

Finding and showing the effects of cold at just 10C is worthwhile, but explaining how that relates to the real world is almost completely mssing from the article. Most people do not have a strong science background therefore need an explanation of what the results mean to them How much difference does wearing a pair of trousers and a thick jumper make - rerunning the experiment and showing how much longer it takes to cool down to the same level (if we do) would give people much more useful information. In the very least showing that if you are only going to be up for an hour bwfore going to bed is it worthwhile putting you heating on? (Obviouly there are many other factors to take into account to answer that). The article has clearly dumbed down the science to the level the journalist feels most people can understand but without giving more than the ver basc implication.

That's what I was thinking - some research to quantify the effects of eg. trousers, and jumper(s) would have improved it greatly.
I've taken to wearing 2 jumpers and keeping the heating set at 17 in my office to cut down on oil heating (we normally have it set at 18)

Agreed! A bit of clothing goes a long way. No one would be swanning around in an open linen shirt in 10℃.

This time of year I’m in: long-sleeve undershirt, rugby top, thin jumper. When it gets colder I’ll swap the thin jumper for a thicker one. Thus-attired I find 16℃ To be a perfectly acceptable indoor temperature, I notice and feel cold when the temperature drops to 14℃.

[Oldgreybeard]

Our old house used to get cold very quickly with the heating off, plus was cold in the hall, which for some reason didn't have any radiators. As the CH piping had been embedded in the concrete floor it would have been a nightmare to try and plumb one in, so I never got around to it. The best way to stay comfortable I found was to wear a long sleeved thermal vest, plus thermal long johns if it got really cold. Seems that multiple thin layers are generally better than just putting on a thick jumper.

Having said that we wear the same lightweight clothes in the house all year around here, as the temperature doesn't change much. It's currently 21.7°C in the hall, so reasonably toasty.

[Mr Gus]

Snowboard pants.
If you can get away with it.
fleece blanket under ones backside, (from a cheap dunelm one upwards)

Wooly hat if not on camera/ working from home.

Also, anytime there is a sale on, bridgedale wool socks, part of my wear more pack less kit for travelling, breathe well, warm & fit regular shoes.
I can wear the merino stripes (have around 8 pairs) comfy in caterpillar boots or my loake brogues ..sod useless novelty socks these wear well, & yes they are boring till you wear them, but lets face it quality "warming" presents this winter are going to be in vogue faced with bleak mid winter energy uncertainty.

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/lister. ... ce%252Casc

Thats two extreme ends covered (heads & toes) & a warmer mid-core.

& understanding what levels Polartec fleece do, allows folk to understand the more generic fleece weights out there.
A decent kids 200 weight makes a nice modern jersey / top layer for the small ones, Tog24 also do good affordable adult kit.

If you can, find a 300 weight polartec gilet to go with that plaid winter shirt.

Fleece styles abound but my "neat" preference is the "smooth cord / "close cord" material style "surface outer with a regular underside ..smarter & pretty much repels animal fur. (unlike a regular fleece).

Lands end (american brand below the likes of LL bean) do good fleece blankets & spreads.

Please remember use non bio for fleece washing

[Oldgreybeard]

Been a Rohan addict for decades now, pretty much exclusively wear their stuff and have found over the ~35 years I've been buying it that it both performs extremely well and lasts almost forever. My wife threw out the first pair of Rohan bags that I bought in the mid-1980s when we cleared out before moving here, but they were still perfectly usable after 30 years, if a bit faded and fraying a bit at the edges.

Right now I'm sat here in Rohan stretch bags and a Rohan Oxford shirt. My wife's now given up telling me I always look like a walking Rohan advert . . .

Their merino leggings and long sleeved undershirt used to be my go-to winter clothing base layer when we were still in the old house.

[Mr Gus]

A few years ago, because they were in a sale, I finally picked up a pair of merino wool long boxer underwear, must say it changes the "exposure" to your bits on a cold inversion day be it xmas storms in the alps or minus 40-45c in canada gives me a few more hours of energy, especially in a white out where it becomes very stop start & you aren't producing much heat

As we are all blokes here, the crotch gets a lot of full on wind & isn't insulated to the same degree as your upper body, draughts abound, an abiding memory was on an extreme day when the electronics froze, it was getting dark, decided to get the last sun & use the loo, before facing the run out suffice to say i was that cold I had to sit on the loo to pee, (cubicles to undress safely & stow bag, goggles & gloves) ...shrinkage? I thought it had fallen off, thereafter I decided it was time to replace my crotch holed snowboard trousers & buy a new pair, ..it still took me another 8 years to find some well priced long boxer merino's

So cold it had done a hibernating turtle, my frozen stiff hands were not helping either.

That did make me invest in a bit more technical layering kit that I'd scoffed at till then, you do change regards to cold tolerance as you get older that's for sure.

When you hear the term "weather inversion" for mountains, be aware it can be extreme enough to do it to parts of you!

Premium price for technical I understand, but gets confusing when so much of a perceived specialist brand is high street tosh wivva badge.

[Mr Gus]

The trousers (winter lined version) that daughter wore to school prior to 6th form, & was *stealth* enough to be missed by teachers performing uniform compliance checks were the women's version of these, ..craghoppers outlet store pages from the main site are always worth a look

https://www.craghoppers.com/mens-kiwi-p ... ers-black/

Anyone turning down the heating this winter, trying not to turn it up beyond tick over, could do worse than order these, saw her through cold bus stops & wet school days where coats indoors are not allowed & deemed " too scruffy" & not allowed to be worn at breaks (as stupid acade do) ...cold classes, co!d kids is not conducive to study, though I do wonder, seeing as schools cannot afford heating & are cutting staff, ..when will they spin that as energy saving for the planet & ask them to wear extra layers?

Common sense for outdoorsy types, but a whole new experience for many worried folk, so share the links & knowledge you possess with those who need a nudge.