Todays Wholesale Gas Price 1p / kWh

[AE-NMidlands]

but the climate crisis? What climate crisis?
It seems that nobody is looking over their shoulder or has any memory of solemn promises made earlier to address the problem.
To offset the extra gas being burnt we should have a road speed limit (probably rail too,) exhortations to reduce IC vehicle use, plus anything else which would make a worthwhile contribution.

[Mart]

Why do we need more gas storage ? we seem to be managing OK without (with or without Russia). We are importing a lot of LNG from USA etc in order to ship to EU and they can reduce supply from Russia and fight a war without guns.

So we can buy when it's cheaper, rather than last second, and also to minimise LNG as much as possible since it's so expensive. Plus if the LNG comes from the US, then it's possibly worse than burning coal (in terms of the climate crisis) due to the massive CO2e emissions from all the fugitive methane emissions. [Russia's gras production is also very leaky with very high CO2e emissions.

[Ken]

but the climate crisis? What climate crisis?
It seems that nobody is looking over their shoulder or has any memory of solemn promises made earlier to address the problem.
To offset the extra gas being burnt we should have a road speed limit (probably rail too,) exhortations to reduce IC vehicle use, plus anything else which would make a worthwhile contribution.

Totally agree with the sentiment.
There is no extra gas being used it is just a case of where it is being used. Already increasing prices has reduced demand. The Germans have the biggest problem and they are indeed considering the ideas you mention. No point in stoking the ICE to EV fire as they cannot produce enough EVs as it is. The whole of the RE cannot run much faster so we the UK are not doing badly.

[AE-NMidlands]

but the climate crisis? What climate crisis?
It seems that nobody is looking over their shoulder or has any memory of solemn promises made earlier to address the problem.
To offset the extra gas being burnt we should have a road speed limit (probably rail too,) exhortations to reduce IC vehicle use, plus anything else which would make a worthwhile contribution.

Totally agree with the sentiment.
There is no extra gas being used it is just a case of where it is being used. Already increasing prices has reduced demand. The Germans have the biggest problem and they are indeed considering the ideas you mention. No point in stoking the ICE to EV fire as they cannot produce enough EVs as it is. The whole of the RE cannot run much faster so we the UK are not doing badly.

but half the (supposedly low-carbon) French nukes are off-line, so we are exporting as fast as we can and burning gas to make it up, so that looks like more gas being burnt to me.
I deliberately didn't say use BEV more, I said use ICE less, which means more walking, bikes and public transport, maybe car-sharing too. Maybe cut down on travel overall: "Is your journey really necessary?"
The elephant in the room is our housing stock, of course.
A

[Paul_F]

If we can force/assist a coup in Russia by bankrupting the economy fair enough. Yet Russian folk are not easily cowed, hardship is in their blood. Yes to cutting off as much finance as possible to Putin but I don't think that will be enough. I have been wondering the last few days at how much Russian oil and gas is currently flowing to Kazakhstan for a quick rebrand..

Good on Europe though for doing what they can without self inducing another financial meltdown.

Cutting off the money isn't particularly the problem (although it does generally weaken the Russian economy which is helpful). The critical impact is in cutting off supply chains - for instance the Russians have stopped making or upgrading tanks, because the parts needed are no longer available from the West and they can't make them domestically.

[Stinsy]

but the climate crisis? What climate crisis?
It seems that nobody is looking over their shoulder or has any memory of solemn promises made earlier to address the problem.
To offset the extra gas being burnt we should have a road speed limit (probably rail too,) exhortations to reduce IC vehicle use, plus anything else which would make a worthwhile contribution.

Totally agree with the sentiment.
There is no extra gas being used it is just a case of where it is being used. Already increasing prices has reduced demand. The Germans have the biggest problem and they are indeed considering the ideas you mention. No point in stoking the ICE to EV fire as they cannot produce enough EVs as it is. The whole of the RE cannot run much faster so we the UK are not doing badly.

but half the (supposedly low-carbon) French nukes are off-line, so we are exporting as fast as we can and burning gas to make it up, so that looks like more gas being burnt to me.
I deliberately didn't say use BEV more, I said use ICE less, which means more walking, bikes and public transport, maybe car-sharing too. Maybe cut down on travel overall: "Is your journey really necessary?"
The elephant in the room is our housing stock, of course.
A

There is a big new housing estate being built near me, 150 "family homes". I'm no NIMBY, increasing the supply of houses is the best way to keep prices under control. However there ins't a single: shop, primary school, doctor's surgery, or other facility that can be accessed on foot. The development is entirely car-centric.

I have no problem with the developer, their motivation is to squeeze as much profit as they can out of the patch of land. However there is clearly absolutely zero thought to reducing car use, it seems that the council's planning dept is AWOL.

[nowty]

This evening with very little wind we are even burning gas in the OCGT in order to export (apart from Norway) to europe.

[ecogeorge]

I guess burning gas in the UK to save burning Russian gas in Europe is no worse ? apart from transmission losses.......
Looking at energy numbers today and demand was fairly flat .27-30G -is that because of uk installed solar ?? didn't see much demand change........
I think the best thing as individuals is to reduce our own import of electricity ...... install more domestic solar....reduces demand , and hence generation focuses on renewables.......
My question to friends/family/people who complain is ....WHAT are YOU doing to reduce fosil fuel energy ???
George

[AE-NMidlands]

I can't make sense of Gridwatch: I have never seen pumped hydro go negative, and today's (and yesterdays all-day) output was either zero or positive (in the morning and longer evening peaks.)
Maybe the pumped hydro figures can't go negative, unlike the interconnectors. Can they really just keep on delivering without needing to refill the upper reservoirs?
A

My question to friends/family/people who complain is ....WHAT are YOU doing to reduce fossil fuel energy ???
George

I agree with George: I can't understand why offspring and close friends aren't more concerned. I can only guess that they see solar pv etc as mercenary or money-grabbing, and not what "polite" or middle class people do.
Sometimes I despair.
A

[nowty]

I can't make sense of Gridwatch: I have never seen pumped hydro go negative, and today's (and yesterdays all-day) output was either zero or positive (in the morning and longer evening peaks.)
Maybe the pumped hydro figures can't go negative, unlike the interconnectors. Can they really just keep on delivering without needing to refill the upper reservoirs?

I assume it just shows zero and the power it consumes is included in the demand.