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About time too.

Perhaps also they need to include the chiller aisles in supermarkets, lights on in commercial buildings when unoccupied, having all street lights on in the early hours of the morning.

Sure there are many energy savings that can be made without affecting security or safety.

I’m not one for petty laws and the associated enforcement.

If companies are wasting energy in this way, prices are too low!

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:14 am I’m not one for petty laws and the associated enforcement.

If companies are wasting energy in this way, prices are too low!

But we can't just leave those decisions to price alone, effectively then we are saying rich people can do as they like and poor people can get lost.

TEQs anyone??

Desp

I'm up for TEQs. However I've long argued for a negative standing charge and higher marginal price. This would be a more efficient mechanism than TEQs. Imagine if the standing charge was negative £10-20 a month. Those who use very little power would be rewarded while those who waste energy would be penalised.

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:50 am I'm up for TEQs. However I've long argued for a negative standing charge and higher marginal price. This would be a more efficient mechanism than TEQs. Imagine if the standing charge was negative £10-20 a month. Those who use very little power would be rewarded while those who waste energy would be penalised.

I really do like the negative SC idea, a carrot and stick approach, ideal and so easy to implement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradable_Energy_Quotas
(For those not in the know ..brings some context to the discussion)

Are the high extending sun blinds / rain canopies that wind out banned in the UK or simply out of favour? , unlike france, Holland etc.
Simple, non electric means of low tech cooling.

spread-tee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:25 am
But we can't just leave those decisions to price alone, effectively then we are saying rich people can do as they like and poor people can get lost.

But that is precisely what the current economy says, get rich and the devil takes the hindmost.

The UK generation that experienced the necessity of co-operation has passed and the welfare state they voted for is dismantled in order to make those who already had enough to have so much more.

The balance of competition verses co-operations has returned to victorian time.

TEQs anyone??

QUE?

Stinsy is right, we know fossil fuels are the problem but they are cheap and getting them out of the ground benefits a capitalist oligarchy, so the distribution of wealth goes to benefiting the rich, who themselves have far more propensity to increase global pollution..

This is why building nuclear power is favoured over using the same money for a distributed RE network.

It didn't help that SEWTHA dissed solar PV so naively when those of us with the right sort of roof tops know it can remove a lot of dependencies on grid electricity, some 80+ % in my case.

Now I'm no bleeding heart lefty but...

Mr Gus wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:37 am https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradable_Energy_Quotas
(For those not in the know ..brings some context to the discussion)

Thanks