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No-one I've heard / read about has said, take your rubbish to a tip yourself, group together & load it so it's one car of domestic waste for multiple householders.
Ditto "perfect opportunity to re-assess your shopping / lifestyle footprint to sort & reduce waste, doubtless there will be folks burning have of rubbish via bonfires

Generally just heard "bags of cr@p on the street, ..it's a disgrace" comments, bugger all about wages in line with current economic system, nor how low & infrequent pay rises make action necessary by desperate people who have burnt through any padding they may have had previously.

Mr Gus wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:34 pm No-one I've heard / read about has said, take your rubbish to a tip yourself, group together & load it so it's one car of domestic waste for multiple householders.
Ditto "perfect opportunity to re-assess your shopping / lifestyle footprint to sort & reduce waste, doubtless there will be folks burning have of rubbish via bonfires

Generally just heard "bags of cr@p on the street, ..it's a disgrace" comments, bugger all about wages in line with current economic system, nor how low & infrequent pay rises make action necessary by desperate people who have burnt through any padding they may have had previously.

I understand the tips weee closed as well Gus. Do agree it’s an opportunity to reduce domestic waste. We have recycling every week, ‘black bin’ every three - we put a small bag of rubbish like the pic a week.

Never any food waste - plus we have space to store it.

I can imagine it could be impossible if you lived in a small flat/home with no external storage.

Some friends bought a rubbish compactor some years ago, during one of the strikes. Does a remarkable job of reducing the volume of stuff before putting it in the wheelie bin. No idea how much it cost, though, they are the sort of people that never seem to worry about the cost of anything. They have it in their boot room, you just open the lid, dump stuff in and it compacts it to a fraction of the normal volume.

Oldgreybeard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:22 pm Some friends bought a rubbish compactor some years ago, during one of the strikes. Does a remarkable job of reducing the volume of stuff before putting it in the wheelie bin. No idea how much it cost, though, they are the sort of people that never seem to worry about the cost of anything. They have it in their boot room, you just open the lid, dump stuff in and it compacts it to a fraction of the normal volume.

We had them offshore on ships. Could go to sea for three weeks with 140 crew and the skip sized compactor did the lot. Like a black hole, the fridge sized ones for paper etc seemed to never fill either!

We are like you BTB, recycling bins for paper plastic, metals, glass and compost caddies every week with the remaining household every third week. Larger green waste bins are done under separate payment scheme but since we compost much of our own anyway we forego this cost / service.

The thin film plastics seem to make up the majority of our household these days and when necessary to minimise its space in the bin i just stick the battery hoover on the end and vacuum it down to a third of its size, four or five twists and two knots and its usually ok and doesn't return to 1atm. All that said the household bin is usually only about half full after three weeks.

Moxi

We’ve been taking our ‘soft plastic’ to Tesco - allegedly it’s being recycled, though I’m sure some will be going to incineration/waste to energy.

I accept this is not ideal, but at least it removes the plastic from the environment and, I hope, the incineration is at a high enough temp and complete enough to avoid toxic emissions.

One of the dilemmas of recycling/waste - I’d love us to be plastic waste free as a household, but the stuff is so ubiquitous, I feel we’re doing something slightly more positive than the black bin.

Over at the former Anglesey Aluminium smelter site theres a start up company thats planning to pyrolyze thin plastic film waste to produce a synthetic oil that will be fed back in to the cracker (presumably at Ellesmere port) its a proven technology but whether the cost of oil supports the process is another question.

Moxi

Be a big step forward if there was a viable process to avoid incineration. I know it’s still effectively a FF, but at least it avoids plastic contaminating the environment.

We really do have to break our addiction to plastic - the end user can make small gains, but I think it requires a change in approach from the ‘producers’.

Seeing how much of the stuff ends up on fairly isolated beaches is frightening.