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Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:13 am I'm up for burning: locally felled, sustainably processed, naturally seasoned, biomass. All that is perfectly sustainable if you want a log burner to augment your heat pump on the very coldest days.

The sheer scale of Drax means that feeding it requires chopping down vast areas of virgin woodland on far-away continents, then consuming huge amounts of energy processing the timber into dry pellets, before shipping it across the globe, and burning it in a converted coal power station. You don't have to get into the detail to realise that this is horribly polluting and completely unsustainable.

Drax seems to claim that they're "just burning some sawdust and a few offcuts" but this isn't possible with the sheer scale of the operation.

Ken wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:12 am

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:13 am I'm up for burning: locally felled, sustainably processed, naturally seasoned, biomass. All that is perfectly sustainable if you want a log burner to augment your heat pump on the very coldest days.

The sheer scale of Drax means that feeding it requires chopping down vast areas of virgin woodland on far-away continents, then consuming huge amounts of energy processing the timber into dry pellets, before shipping it across the globe, and burning it in a converted coal power station. You don't have to get into the detail to realise that this is horribly polluting and completely unsustainable.

Drax seems to claim that they're "just burning some sawdust and a few offcuts" but this isn't possible with the sheer scale of the operation.

Totally agree.

Last yr i had to chop down 7 small DEAD Elm tries. Man did not plant them,man did not kill them and left to their own would have rotted away all the time emitting methane a very potent green house gas. So i came along and burnt the logs and the chippings as mulch around the garden. Whats to not like.

A large timber merchants near me directs all its saw dust to a 40ft container outside which i guess then gets used for chip board/mdf or pellets (must find out nextime there) and will one day get burnt i guess.

Its not so much chopping trees down which may after all be near the end of life and can be used for better things but that collecting and transport in Drax,s case is not acceptable. If Drax genuinly used off cuts and waste nearer to home then i would support it, the trouble is here in the UK we chopped down most of our trees along time ago and are now telling other countries not to do the same.

Always remembering there is not a shortage of wood and many woods could be cleared of dead wood at a local level-perhaps increased energy prices will up the value of this dead wood. A few yrs ago the Nat Trust had to clear a huge amount ,100ks of dead trees -i wonder what happened to them?

I have some dying conifers which i guess is because of drought -this is nature in action not mankind.

Joeboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:42 pm

Ken wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:12 am

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:13 am I'm up for burning: locally felled, sustainably processed, naturally seasoned, biomass. All that is perfectly sustainable if you want a log burner to augment your heat pump on the very coldest days.

The sheer scale of Drax means that feeding it requires chopping down vast areas of virgin woodland on far-away continents, then consuming huge amounts of energy processing the timber into dry pellets, before shipping it across the globe, and burning it in a converted coal power station. You don't have to get into the detail to realise that this is horribly polluting and completely unsustainable.

Drax seems to claim that they're "just burning some sawdust and a few offcuts" but this isn't possible with the sheer scale of the operation.

Totally agree.

Last yr i had to chop down 7 small DEAD Elm tries. Man did not plant them,man did not kill them and left to their own would have rotted away all the time emitting methane a very potent green house gas. So i came along and burnt the logs and the chippings as mulch around the garden. Whats to not like.

A large timber merchants near me directs all its saw dust to a 40ft container outside which i guess then gets used for chip board/mdf or pellets (must find out nextime there) and will one day get burnt i guess.

Its not so much chopping trees down which may after all be near the end of life and can be used for better things but that collecting and transport in Drax,s case is not acceptable. If Drax genuinly used off cuts and waste nearer to home then i would support it, the trouble is here in the UK we chopped down most of our trees along time ago and are now telling other countries not to do the same.

Always remembering there is not a shortage of wood and many woods could be cleared of dead wood at a local level-perhaps increased energy prices will up the value of this dead wood. A few yrs ago the Nat Trust had to clear a huge amount ,100ks of dead trees -i wonder what happened to them?

I have some dying conifers which i guess is because of drought -this is nature in action not mankind.

The trees cleared from last year's storm Arwen figured in the millions. I am sure that a percentage would be sold to Drax. Read an article on it, will see if I can find.

Edit- https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... 926691.amp

https://forestryandland.gov.scot/blog/s ... -aftermath

Andy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:06 pm A friends father had woodland planted on his farm for his pension.
It was all blown down this year. It was no use for construction timber and my understanding is that it was also too contaminated from soil to be processed into wood pellets. I’m guessing a lot of wind blown wood falls into the no use for processing bracket.