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Well, this is interesting!
Plans agreed for a 4-nation HVDC connector linking off-shore wind farm generation in the Black Sea off the coast of Azerbaijan, through Georgia, Romania and thence into Hungary. No details as to the size of the link though.
And also it looks like a gas pipeline will be built along the same route at the same time. So not all good, but at least would be another way to avoid putting money in Putin's pocket.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... c0a3a3d40e

Hungary? ..who play both sides politically? ..that sounds like another energy hostage potential via authoritarian viktor orban, likely a self imposed "leader for life" ..about as trustworthy as south african party electorate,.

Azerbaijan ? bordering both russia & iran (plus the routine political uncertainty of Georgia & Armenia) likely makes this project a puff chested pi55ing contest that will be plagued with easily disabled power from a multitude of directions, i'm doubtful it will ever break ground, or at the very least will require many fifa, olympic, italian type manilla bungs to achieve ground breaking let alone finishing.

Chill out Gus, chill out!

Totally calm, merely pointing out location, politics, govt a-holes that could simply be a re-run of gazprom (wiv electtrons)

Just as russia wants ukraine back, Azerbaijan & Hungary are also ex soviet, & presumably deemed still their property (to be clawed back) by the idiot diktat throwing their citizens into the meat grinder.I

That makes any investment a needlessly risky expensive one with a mass of problems that go with it.

Or the alternative viewpoint is that by making all of those countries more inter-dependent on each other for basic services, they become less likely to go rogue. Which in general is true, Brexit and Putin being the obvious exceptions!

I wonder if Putin wants Hungary back? And Georgia and Roumania.

Mr Gus may well be on the right track, unforunately....

Oh for goodness sake! It's just news about RE and interconnectors, let's not start imagineering negatives for everything (again).

Pull up a page as to how many invasions, jointly / individual over the past 100 years, russia has made, it is around 65.
When Russia invades it like a tom cat marking territory forever, partly why Germany is wary.

Lets give them what is now kaliningrd back maybe

Lost me there Gus, thought Kaliningrad was their aircraft carrier on the south Baltic ?

Don’t take what Viktor Orban states or represents - from my experience (SWMBO family) he is intensely disliked; Hungary pre and post Russian ‘rule’ is a totally different country.

The times of occupation/uprising, the Russians were hated, and that continues today. The young are well educated and keen - as with many other of the satellite states - they want a more open, free, opportunistic society. They won’t go back.

Don’t know if the feeling is the same throughout the old satellite states, but I can hazard at a guess.

I have several close friends and colleagues who hail from the various Baltic states. They all HATE Putin's Russia and are all mightily concerned by what he's doing in Ukraine. Even the ones who speak Russian are extremely proud of their Baltic independence and are pleased to be in the EU and NATO.

But let's keep the thread on topic.