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Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:45 am
by Mr Gus
Probably.. :twisted:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ublic-good

Thoughts as to why he's done this!?

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:11 pm
by Moxi
I would expect HM will use this as a leveraging tool to enable him to influence some of the decisions as to where the money is spent, which given his green credentials (well greener than the Tories appear to be able to manage) wont be a bad thing.

Of course if Rishi is daft enough to try some sort of stunt like that I would love to be in the room listening to HM straightening him out :lol:

Question for the knowledgeable - if the crown holds the rights to the sea bed for a given distance can it ban any fishing practices that would impact the sea bed directly eg beam trawlers ?

Moxi

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:03 pm
by Mr Gus
Lads,
Suggest you write to the Guardian "opinions" as you would opine / suggest here. (what should the money be spent on!?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ublic-good

How about rather than pee money away on some of the corporate moneymaking crap that gets approved via the national lottery & its awful application process...

Another windfarm on "his" seabed, so its a give & give back money loop of creation.. then maybe offset the electricity of sports centres, council hqs, old folks homes etc so we keep driving down municipal council building operational costs we pay through council tax anyway in a manner that rewards councils for "properly done" insulation, renovation etc.
Solar on schools (non acadamy)
Gshp scheme on schoolfields ⬆
Nhs renewable energy bills slashed.

So we all indirectly benefit from council bills directed onto us further..

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:30 pm
by Moxi
I like the first option - use the money to build more, then at a certain point move towards pumped hydro - I'm sure theres some points in Cornwall that would be able to host this energy sources, besides the more obvious geographic locations like North Wales, North Devon etc etc As we have said on other threads they don't have to be massive just numerous ! Other energy storage options could also be pursued but the aesthetics of a couple of large lakes with trees and walks around them would, I am sure appeal to HM's ideals.

There's a "Brucy bonus" in this idea as well, where possible build these pump hydro units near to rivers and in winter when the winds blowing abstract water to store which would otherwise end up flooding in the catchment flood plain and being lost to the sea. Then in summer this water can be fed back at a controlled rate for water treatment plants to abstract.

Moxi

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:58 pm
by Joeboy
Moxi wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:30 pm
There's a "Brucy bonus" in this idea as well, where possible build these pump hydro units near to rivers and in winter when the winds blowing abstract water to store which would otherwise end up flooding in the catchment flood plain and being lost to the sea. Then in summer this water can be fed back at a controlled rate for water treatment plants to abstract.

Moxi
Absolutely 💯

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:25 pm
by Mr Gus
Bang em that one via the link 👍

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:53 pm
by Joeboy

Re: Govt to put crown renewables windfall towards nuclear...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:08 pm
by sharpener
Moxi wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:30 pm
There's a "Brucy bonus" in this idea as well, where possible build these pump hydro units near to rivers and in winter when the winds blowing abstract water to store which would otherwise end up flooding in the catchment flood plain and being lost to the sea. Then in summer this water can be fed back at a controlled rate for water treatment plants to abstract.

Moxi

It would be lovely to drain the Somerset levels by pumping the water to the top of the Bllackdown Hills but there aren't any good valleys there suitable for impounding lakes.

Unfortunately the physics is against us, pumped storage requires really significant height differentials over a short horizontal distance (to minimise friction losses) so only Wales and Scotland offer many suitable sites and most of the good ones have already been brought into use.