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EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:44 am
by dan_b
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:55 am
by nowty
Surely this is the same as what has been happening in the UK for many years, certainly since FITs closed.
"Future state support for new investments in wind, solar, geothermal, hydropower and nuclear electricity, for example, must be done through a two-way contract for difference (CfD).
Two-way CfDs offer generators a fixed "strike price" for their electricity, regardless of the price in short-term energy markets."
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:14 am
by Yuff
If what we have had over the past year is anything to go by, it doesn’t work.
Other countries don’t seem to be as affected by the inflation in electric and gas prices from what I can see.
Or is our energy market just so broken?
I had to use a public charger yesterday, doesnt happen very often thank goodness, but 65p per kWh is 900% more than the convenience of my home charger how can that encourage green energy.
My car is now charging at a free BP pulse charger………
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:52 am
by Thebeeman
Instavolt are charging 75p/Kw. As you say home is best.
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:48 am
by John_S
You need to remember that businesses do not benefit from the price cap and are probably paying around 50p per kWh.
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am
by NikoV6
My last 10 Supercharges have ranged from 42p to 56p, sort of OK with that
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:14 pm
by ecogeorge
NikoV6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am
My last 10 Supercharges have ranged from 42p to 56p, sort of OK with that
How does that work out in p/mile ? how many KW/mile ??
My Diesel Nissan costs 23p/mile @ £1.66/litre - 32.8mpg
George
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:22 pm
by smegal
ecogeorge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:14 pm
NikoV6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am
My last 10 Supercharges have ranged from 42p to 56p, sort of OK with that
How does that work out in p/mile ? how many KW/mile ??
My Diesel Nissan costs 23p/mile @ £1.66/litre - 32.8mpg
George
Assume 3.5-4 miles per kWh, so 56p @3.5 kWh per mile is 16p per mile.
For the expensive rapid chargers , this can become 75p/kWh, or 21p per mile. But these mega expensive rapid chargers are like motorway petrol stations, only used in an emergency, so the price isn't really indicative of general running costs of an EV, unless you can't charge at home.
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:05 pm
by Yuff
ecogeorge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:14 pm
NikoV6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am
My last 10 Supercharges have ranged from 42p to 56p, sort of OK with that
How does that work out in p/mile ? how many KW/mile ??
My Diesel Nissan costs 23p/mile @ £1.66/litre - 32.8mpg
George
I was in our e-tron and it is half as efficient as our Tesla which I left at home so the house could benefit from IO charging.
Luckily the weather was good so I was averaging 3.3m/kWh and driving conservatively to extend the range.
£1.30 added 8 miles of range
Re: EU energy market reform proposals
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:13 pm
by Yuff
NikoV6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am
My last 10 Supercharges have ranged from 42p to 56p, sort of OK with that
42-56 is ok, I should have used the Tesla superchargers I drove past at the start of my journey but I was hoping to eke out the range which I managed to do.
As previously mentioned I rarely use public chargers as they are pretty expensive akin to motorway service petrol stations. So not sure how much they are generally.
Although I had an email saying some Tesla chargers were doing off peak charging, not sure if that’s come into effect yet.