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Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 7:58 am
by Joeboy

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 9:44 am
by Mart
Flippin eck!

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:10 pm
by Joeboy
Had a van in for mot today and spoke to a guy whole i was waiting who has a 10 Yr old house, well insulated and he said that his 1yr installed ashp was one of the worst choices he has made. Cost him £600 per month on electricity across Winter. Said it also did his hot water too?

Just throwing that in there for thought. He's the 3rd or 4th person I've heard saying similar from Aberdeenshire. :o

He also had a wbs that was running full tilt across Winter. Just shows how varied it can be.

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:18 pm
by AE-NMidlands
Joeboy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:10 pm Had a van in for mot today and spoke to a guy whole i was waiting who has a 10 Yr old house, well insulated and he said that his 1yr installed ashp was one of the worst choices he has made. Cost him £600 per month on electricity across Winter. Said it also did his hot water too?
Just throwing that in there for thought. He's the 3rd or 4th person I've heard saying similar from Aberdeenshire. :o
He also had a wbs that was running full tilt across Winter. Just shows how varied it can be.
That's a shame... saw this today: https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ith-system (Heat pumps: more than 80% of households in Great Britain ‘satisfied with system’)
Heat pumps: more than 80% of households in Great Britain ‘satisfied with system’

More than 80% of households that have replaced their gas boilers with an electric heat pump are satisfied with their new heating system, according to the first major survey of heat pump users.
Those who use heat pumps to warm their homes reported broadly similar levels of satisfaction to those with gas boilers, the survey commissioned by the innovation charity Nesta found.
Satisfaction levels were also similar between respondents who installed a heat pump in a new-build home or in older properties, at more than 80%, despite persistent concerns that heat pumps are only effective in modern buildings.
I wonder if this reflects the comments we have seen before about crap installation/briefing of owners? Like e.g. systems set up to gobble ordinary electricity with a simple resistive heater cutting in lots of the time when it should not?
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Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 9:21 am
by Joeboy
AE-NMidlands wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:18 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:10 pm Had a van in for mot today and spoke to a guy whole i was waiting who has a 10 Yr old house, well insulated and he said that his 1yr installed ashp was one of the worst choices he has made. Cost him £600 per month on electricity across Winter. Said it also did his hot water too?
Just throwing that in there for thought. He's the 3rd or 4th person I've heard saying similar from Aberdeenshire. :o
He also had a wbs that was running full tilt across Winter. Just shows how varied it can be.
That's a shame... saw this today: https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ith-system (Heat pumps: more than 80% of households in Great Britain ‘satisfied with system’)
Heat pumps: more than 80% of households in Great Britain ‘satisfied with system’

More than 80% of households that have replaced their gas boilers with an electric heat pump are satisfied with their new heating system, according to the first major survey of heat pump users.
Those who use heat pumps to warm their homes reported broadly similar levels of satisfaction to those with gas boilers, the survey commissioned by the innovation charity Nesta found.
Satisfaction levels were also similar between respondents who installed a heat pump in a new-build home or in older properties, at more than 80%, despite persistent concerns that heat pumps are only effective in modern buildings.
I wonder if this reflects the comments we have seen before about crap installation/briefing of owners? Like e.g. systems set up to gobble ordinary electricity with a simple resistive heater cutting in lots of the time when it should not?
A
I did think about the crap installation side of things as a possibility but he also didn't seem to have bothered to learn much about the unit. We do what we can eh? :lol:

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 10:23 am
by Mr Gus
"I expect "magic" mentality maybe? (from a box that is clearly not)

What brand Joe, did he say?

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 10:40 am
by Joeboy
Mr Gus wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 10:23 am "I expect "magic" mentality maybe? (from a box that is clearly not)

What brand Joe, did he say?
He didn't say, it was through the energy trust though. My alarm bells rang a little at the lack of knowing 1 year in. :D

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am
by smegal
Joeboy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 10:40 am
Mr Gus wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 10:23 am "I expect "magic" mentality maybe? (from a box that is clearly not)

What brand Joe, did he say?
He didn't say, it was through the energy trust though. My alarm bells rang a little at the lack of knowing 1 year in. :D
I think this sort of issue is going to be a problem with the transition to more sustainable measures.

Things like heat pumps need fettling and an understanding of how they work. Since moving away from open coal fires to gas central heating, people are used to things just happening and not costing much to run. We are going back to things needing fettling to work properly. Which is great for people who are interested in that stuff (like members on here), but more concerning for people like your example.

If something I did was costing £600 a month in electricity, I'd be working out why, not just complaining about it. Hell, I'd become the fcuking world expert if I was shelling out that much.

Re: Serious heat pump(s)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 12:23 pm
by Yuff
My bill in December was £800 until I understood how to use octopus IO properly.
Old radiators don’t help, new ones still in a box 🤦🏻‍♂️