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New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:05 am
by Countrypaul

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:02 am
by dan_b
That’s an interesting approach. Loads of those things around. Although usually they’re located on the far side of the pavement not the roadside so that would need to be taken into account…

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:34 am
by Thebeeman
And also mainly at road junctions so the BT cables were most economically placed to serve the larger area, total P.I.A. as a BT engineer as you have to drag all your kit from wherever you can park the van. This smells of a P.R. stunt by BT to avoid removing dead cabinets from the footpaths.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:43 am
by Countrypaul
Interesting that the first photo shows green cabinets apparently beside the road with a wide footpath, and that the second shows the charger some distance from the green cabinet suggesting that even if the cabinet is away from the road the charger might be more accessible.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:28 am
by nowty
They are effectively being used as an electrical junction box to provide power to the charge point installed nearby, the headline is a little misleading.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:48 am
by Thebeeman
nowty wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:28 am They are effectively being used as an electrical junction box to provide power to the charge point installed nearby, the headline is a little misleading.
The existing cabinets would need to be removed to install the ducting for the heavier leccy cables so why not put a new one in a more appropriate place for maintenance etc. It looks like PR for BT rather than a 'plan'.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:54 am
by Thebeeman
nowty wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:28 am They are effectively being used as an electrical junction box to provide power to the charge point installed nearby, the headline is a little misleading.
Having had a reread of the article it's cobblers. In the old redundant cabinets the only power in there is 50v DC in the telephone cables. Any power fitted to supply Broadband amplifiers etc is not going to charge a car battery. I think the author has been on the waccy baccy.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:05 pm
by nowty
Thebeeman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:54 am
nowty wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:28 am They are effectively being used as an electrical junction box to provide power to the charge point installed nearby, the headline is a little misleading.
Having had a reread of the article it's cobblers. In the old redundant cabinets the only power in there is 50v DC in the telephone cables. Any power fitted to supply Broadband amplifiers etc is not going to charge a car battery. I think the author has been on the waccy baccy.
Obviously they will use the existing ducting to the boxes to run the leccy cables, then its a short dig up of the pavement to the roadside for the actual EV charger.

Clever re-use of existing infrastructure.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm
by Thebeeman
They can't reuse the BT ducting as too tight bends for heavy armoured leccy cable and wrong colour for safety purposes. They'll still need to get a large power supply to the cabinet underground as well. I repeat my view that it's BS.

Re: New approach for some more charging points

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:27 pm
by nowty
From the FT,
https://www.ft.com/content/4504d2ca-664 ... bdc7d67405

Tom Guy, managing director of Etc at BT Group, told the Financial Times the company was taking near end-of-life assets to use them for the “next generation of services with EV”.

He said BT had looked at how its assets could be utilised to provide solutions to customer problems and macro challenges such as in the EV market.