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Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:16 pm
by Moxi
I wonder if they got VW to arrange the monitoring and stats production for them based on their experience of meeting emissions targets............ :whistle:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/g ... 3d55&ei=56

Moxi

Re: Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:33 pm
by Ken
All well and good but the UK is already doing better than that.

2023 was the cleanest year ever for electricity production in Britain. Emissions from the power sector fell by 22% compared to 2022, the largest decline in seven years. This was driven by less fossil fuel being burnt, with their share of electricity demand fell to an all-time low of just 33%. Wind is now the biggest producer of electricity in the UK.

Re: Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:17 pm
by Moxi
Yes and I believe the figures are still behind where they would have been prior to them shutting down all their reactors after Fukushima. Just another politician saying how well they have done and using specific data sets to underpin their "spin"

Moxi

Re: Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:51 pm
by Oliver90owner
Question: How are imports, via connectors, rated for carbon footprint?

Imports are much higher these days - and exports should be classed as fossil generation.

Re: Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:18 am
by Ken
Oliver90owner wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:51 pm Question: How are imports, via connectors, rated for carbon footprint?

Imports are much higher these days - and exports should be classed as fossil generation.
I read once but never been able to confirm that the carbon is counted at the point of production and therefore imports are zero carbon but in any case this may be academic as the main imports are French nuclear (up to 4GW), Norway hydro (up to 1.5GW but 2 GW in the future?). We export very little FF CO2

When the price of gas rocketed it forced EDF (the French gov) to fix their faulty nuclear but this has now made excess production and we are importing it at max.

Re: Germany on target for carbon reductions

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:25 am
by Mart
Ken wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:18 am
Oliver90owner wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:51 pm Question: How are imports, via connectors, rated for carbon footprint?

Imports are much higher these days - and exports should be classed as fossil generation.
I read once but never been able to confirm that the carbon is counted at the point of production and therefore imports are zero carbon but in any case this may be academic as the main imports are French nuclear (up to 4GW), Norway hydro (up to 1.5GW but 2 GW in the future?). We export very little FF CO2

When the price of gas rocketed it forced EDF (the French gov) to fix their faulty nuclear but this has now made excess production and we are importing it at max.
Good points.

I assume as time goes on, that imports will become ever lower carbon, since the cheapest generation is typically the excess that can't demand follow, so RE, nuclear, and Norway (etc) making profits on their hydro.

Good for us all that France has got its nuclear fleet running again, as that was messing up both the UK and Germany, with increased FF consumption to make up for reduced imports, and also for us to export to France to keep them going.

Even prior to the nuclear problems, France was a net importer from Germany, but I believe this often gets a bit controversial, as Germany is a pass-through for a lot of French nuclear excess at times, to other countries. Regardless, the more RE that France and Germany build, the less FF's Germany will need to burn.

Dare I say that the expansion of RE, and internal/external interconnectors, is working pretty well in Europe so far. Loads of promise, but I've still no idea how well (or not) LDES (long duration energy storage) will work out, but at least the HoL's is pushing the issue.

Long-duration energy storage: UK’s House of Lords tells government to ‘get on with it’ and act fast