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737 MAX

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:25 pm
by bxman
I got trampled on by some of the Mods on the other forum for drawing attention to press articles in the Seattle Times and video links relating to deception by a major aircraft company in that city .

latest development

Are that

a

Criminal indictment imminent for former Boeing 737 MAX chief technical pilot

is subject of the following article by

By Dominic Gates
Seattle Times aerospace reporter

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... port-says/

Please review and either re Name or Delete the topic before I post a related video link

on this same grave Cause for Public Concern

IMO. Thanks Patrick

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:42 pm
by Stinsy
Don't worry a moderator in another place didn't like me very much either...

This particular post seems a bit "off topic" for this forum though... But after all this time I don't think it is surprising or news that Boeing deceived / where in bed with, the regulator and persevered with a clearly-unsafe aircraft, then tried to blame the (African) pilots for the crashes. However, I don't see how air travel can be sustained at the current levels/prices. A train ticket to London is £150 yet a plane ticket to Benidorm is £30. How is that right?

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:22 pm
by rogeriko
A train ticket to London is £150 yet a plane ticket to Benidorm is £30.

Rip off Britain. Gouge the poor people/commuters to make a profit. The largest employer in the world is Indian Railways, they move millions of people every day and the ticket price simply depends on the mileage travelled. If they did that here everone could travel by train.

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:37 am
by Joeboy
rogeriko wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:22 pm A train ticket to London is £150 yet a plane ticket to Benidorm is £30.

Rip off Britain. Gouge the poor people/commuters to make a profit. The largest employer in the world is Indian Railways, they move millions of people every day and the ticket price simply depends on the mileage travelled. If they did that here everone could travel by train.
SWMBO & I used the trains in India, excellent and a great experience. We also used sleeper buses there which were literally full on double bed(almost) bunks 18 of on the bus and off you went. Our longest was an overnighter from Mysure back up to Mumbai, 18 hour overnighter, over 1,000k £19 each if i remember correctly. I detest the price of trains in UK and also the cleanliness. A train from Inverness to Kings X is £185(574 miles) as a single. I paid last week £176(5,508 miles) for 2 of return tickets to Turkey.
Cost per mile? Train 3.1p Plane 0.031p One tenth, what's the odds on that working out that way!!! :lol:

Then i have to half it to per person, so 0.0155p per mile.

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:16 am
by Stinsy
30p a mile is good on our rail network. I used to pay £1 a mile when I was traveling to London regularly...

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:58 am
by Joeboy
Stinsy wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:16 am 30p a mile is good on our rail network. I used to pay £1 a mile when I was traveling to London regularly...
That's shocking! :o

Re: 737 MAX

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:27 am
by Galahad
I've updated the topic title.

I can't see an issue as long as we stick to what's being reported in the media.

Re: Moderator Alert

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:41 am
by nowty
As I used to live in London and commute on the Piccadilly line, it was well known and frequently repeated story in the press about the worlds most expensive public transport cost per mile.

Its the 43 second jaunt on the Piccadilly Line between Covent Garden and Leicester Square for a distance of 0.162 miles, so if you pay cash, its now almost the equivalent of £34 per mile. :o

Once getting off at Covent Garden there was a massive que for the lifts (no escalators) so decided to use the staircase. There is a warning that there are 193 steps. I thought, that's not many ?, but it turns out equivalent to a 15 story block of flats. :oops:

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Re: 737 MAX

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:46 am
by dan_b
Not sure how this thread swerved from the 737 Max to Oyster Cards?!

Interesting about Boeing - they seem to have completely screwed up on a host of high profile projects - not least the Commercial Crew Capsule (Boeing Starliner) for NASA. Structural incompetence?

Re: 737 MAX

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:51 am
by Stinsy
dan_b wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:46 am Not sure how this thread swerved from the 737 Max to Oyster Cards?!

Interesting about Boeing - they seem to have completely screwed up on a host of high profile projects - not least the Commercial Crew Capsule (Boeing Starliner) for NASA. Structural incompetence?
A business based on government subsidy breeds ineptitude. These huuuuuge organisations also suffer from "emperor's new clothes" where everyone knows something isn't right but no one says anything...