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U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:15 am
by dan_b

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:59 am
by Moxi
Looking forward to gas being displaced from the no1 slot by wind in 2025 that will be a significant moment.

Thanks Dan, a welcome morning read :xl:

Moxi

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:03 pm
by Mart
Moxi wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:59 am Looking forward to gas being displaced from the no1 slot by wind in 2025 that will be a significant moment.

Thanks Dan, a welcome morning read :xl:

Moxi
Same here. I had my fingers crossed for wind taking the lead in 2024, and Iamkate does have wind ahead of gas/FF's, but looks like the slightly poorer wind gen (than average) for the year left wind just behind. I assume, with more wind having come on line during 2024, that will operate throughout 2025, plus additional capacity that comes on line in 2025, wind will win ..... maybe, hopefully, this year. Be a lovely milestone.

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:11 pm
by dan_b
Here’s the full report from Carbon Brief

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-uk ... r-in-2024/

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:35 pm
by Oliver90owner
Mart wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:03 pm
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I assume, with more wind having come on line during 2024, that will operate throughout 2025, plus additional capacity that comes on line in 2025, wind will win ..... maybe, hopefully, this year. Be a lovely milestone.

It won’t just be wind - it’ll also be helped by more solar, too. Even imported power, if it is convenient/more economical. Reduced UK power usage will also make a difference.

We can also assume that most exported generation will de derived from gas plants.

There are several factors in play, here. Not just the amount of wind generation.

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:14 am
by Mart
Oliver90owner wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:35 pm
Mart wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:03 pm
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I assume, with more wind having come on line during 2024, that will operate throughout 2025, plus additional capacity that comes on line in 2025, wind will win ..... maybe, hopefully, this year. Be a lovely milestone.

It won’t just be wind - it’ll also be helped by more solar, too. Even imported power, if it is convenient/more economical. Reduced UK power usage will also make a difference.

We can also assume that most exported generation will de derived from gas plants.

There are several factors in play, here. Not just the amount of wind generation.
Yep, lots of promise. I did write about increased solar, reducing gas demand, which helps wind take the lead ...... but I deleted it, as I'm painfully aware just how boring most of my posts are. :)

Probably jinx it now, but hard to see how wind doesn't take the win in 2025, which I'm so looking forward to, especially the mainstream media coverage.

I've already noticed on other forums, that the folk who used to deny AGW, RE potential, RE penetration levels etc etc, are already pivoting to commenting on days with high gas %age, and how reaching 100 net zero (95% clean accoreding to NG(ESO)) will be hard. I'm starting to think that the goalposts now have wheels permanently attached to make it easier/quicker to move them.

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:06 am
by Moxi
Don’t hold back Mart, I for one enjoy your posts and find them interesting and informative as well as sometimes challenging my base assumptions.

Moxi

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:15 am
by Krill
Oliver90owner wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:35 pm
Mart wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:03 pm
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I assume, with more wind having come on line during 2024, that will operate throughout 2025, plus additional capacity that comes on line in 2025, wind will win ..... maybe, hopefully, this year. Be a lovely milestone.

It won’t just be wind - it’ll also be helped by more solar, too. Even imported power, if it is convenient/more economical. Reduced UK power usage will also make a difference.

We can also assume that most exported generation will de derived from gas plants.

There are several factors in play, here. Not just the amount of wind generation.
UK located gas power stations are important for national security (medium term)but the more export links we can get increases the financial viability of them, and also of wind power for those times of higher generation. Its a win win whilst still pushing for full decarbonisation.
Moxi wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:06 am Don’t hold back Mart, I for one enjoy your posts and find them interesting and informative as well as sometimes challenging my base assumptions.

Moxi
+1

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:27 am
by dan_b
Useful/interesting to look at what wind farms are expected to come online in 2025 - in terms of MWp but location and whether there are grid constraints for them to contend with - found a few:

Offshore
Moray West (880MW) - construction complete, to be fully commissioned early 2025 - grid connection in Blckhillock, Aberdeenshire
Dogger Bank A (1.2GW) - already generating but still being completed - finish 2nd half of 2025 - grid connection in East Riding
Neart Na Gaoithe (450MW) - also already generating but still being completed - finish 2nd half of 2025 - grid connection in Dunbar, East Lothian

Onshore
Benbrack (67MW) - construction complete, commissioning beginning 2025 - located in Galloway
Camster 2 - (36MW) - extension to existing site - mid-2025 - located in Caithness
Enoch Hill (69MW) - completion expected June-2025 - located in East Ayrshire

it seems that the big new offshore wind farm in Scotland called Seagreen has been hugely grid constrained since it was commissioned - it's only running at a load factor of about 14%.

Re: U.K. grid continues to decarbonise

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:43 pm
by AE-NMidlands
dan_b wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:27 am it seems that the big new offshore wind farm in Scotland called Seagreen has been hugely grid constrained since it was commissioned - it's only running at a load factor of about 14%.
oh dear, Bootstrap No 2 from Peterhead is still (at least) 5 years away... https://www.ssen-transmission.co.uk/pro ... 5499557323 and https://www.easterngreenlink2.co.uk/
No 1 seems to have about the same dates too!