Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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Re: Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:40 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:27 pm Wt1 is picking up again nicely. Had a quick look at Turnberry, winds are due to peak there on Weds at over 34mph while Graig Fatha is topping out at 22mph on same day. Best get used to it eh? :twisted:
You do know the turbines are not there yet. :lol:
:lol: Really? Always see as much of the field as you can as early as you can... Even when it's literally a field with no turbines in it.. :ugeek:
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Re: Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:47 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:40 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:27 pm Wt1 is picking up again nicely. Had a quick look at Turnberry, winds are due to peak there on Weds at over 34mph while Graig Fatha is topping out at 22mph on same day. Best get used to it eh? :twisted:
You do know the turbines are not there yet. :lol:
:lol: Really? Always see as much of the field as you can as early as you can... Even when it's literally a field with no turbines in it.. :ugeek:
Getting my brain ready for the multiple MWh's per month. :twisted:
Your as bad as me with my virtual battery. Now you have a virtual windfarm, virtually time shifting power into 2024. :mrgreen:
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Re: Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:12 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:47 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:40 pm

You do know the turbines are not there yet. :lol:
:lol: Really? Always see as much of the field as you can as early as you can... Even when it's literally a field with no turbines in it.. :ugeek:
Getting my brain ready for the multiple MWh's per month. :twisted:
Your as bad as me with my virtual battery. Now you have a virtual windfarm, virtually time shifting power into 2024. :mrgreen:
PMSL! :lol: :lol:
It won't be but today technically could be a 60kWh day. Multiply that by 30...
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Re: Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:37 pm Ripple have made a comment on a facebook group, I'm not sure what to make of it as I'm still almost 20% down on adding up the daily tally's. The sugestion seems to be it "might" be updated in a few days. :evil:

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Hi, hopefully I can shed some light on the matter. There are 2 things going on here. Firstly, as we want to get our members the info on savings as quickly throughout the month, (ie. on a daily basis), we use provisional information gathered from the telemetry data at the wind farm. On your charts you should see this generation labeled as estimated. What we perhaps could have made clearer is that this estimation will also apply to the savings too. The final month end bills savings are based on the actual meter generation. But there is a lag in the actual the metered generation coming through. At the end of each month, we provide a summary of the estimated savings and then when the metered generation comes through we change it over so members can see an accurate reflection. I apologise if this has been unclear. We chatted this afternoon as a management team as to how we can make this clearer on the charts. Therefore what you are looking at at the end of the month from us is the true generation and the true savings, and what you are viewing during the month is the best estimate possible for us to give you a point of view regularly. Secondly, at the end of the month, the metered generation can take a few days to update depending on where the month end lands relative to the weekdays/weekends. That is why you sometimes see your savings revised. But nothing has been "lost", just more accurately reflected. The differences can look more pronounced the larger your ownership share. For some members it is just pennies, but for some it can result in a few pounds difference. We want to ensure you can track your wind farm performance and savings speedily and regularly throughout the month, but also appreciate you want a clear understanding of what you are seeing. If there are any issues around your savings, or something still isn't adding up in your dashboard, do give us a shout and we can look at your individual case. We'll look into how we can make this clearer on the data charts. Hope that all makes sense.
Clear as mud.

Do daily figures get updated or just the month's total?

For July, August and September the Ripple saving got applied to my Octopus account on the 1st or if a weekend the next working day. Does that mean they had correct figures quickly then or have we been short changed any correction?

Perhaps a solution is to correct the daily figures as the month progresses and use a different colour for estimated and confirmed figures.

No wonder Ripple are not keen on adding a month to date figure in the dashboard. It would make the correction more obvious.

There is nothing wrong with estimates, it is just a matter of being transparent.

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Re: Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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There was a second update to the month figures a couple of hours ago. So initially I was 30% down, then it updated mid morning to 18% down and now I am 14% down on the sum of the daily tally numbers.

I would have thought its simple enough to put a question mark for provisional and a green tick for final. I'll wait till the Octopus savings come in before I publish my monthly Capacity Factor graph.
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BOOM !

They have updated it, 805.4 kWh for me. :twisted:

Bank. :mrgreen:

Capacity Factor 36.1

EDIT - Sarah (CEO from Ripple) has said on their website that there were some data gaps across the month and data from the start of the weekend were initially missing from the official generation data. In future they will not publish the months total until it's all been gathered and verified.
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From the WT1 AGM a graph was presented which showed the P50, P75 and P90 monthly predicted generation graphs. The P75 one was the one which the share offer was based upon. So I took that graph and converted it from monthly generation to monthly capacity factors taking into account the different number of days in each month. I sanity checked it by working out the average capacity factor from my P75 graph and tweaked it slightly to make an average capacity factor of 30.51 which matches the P75 average capacity factor.

I had previously used an average UK generic graph but from now on I will use this as I think it will be more accurate for the specific WT1 site. I have omitted March actuals, as we only had half a month.

As you can see, apart from the months of Jul, Aug and Sept it is running as or better than expected, and we look forward to the 5 best generation months of the year. :mrgreen:

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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:17 pm From the WT1 AGM a graph was presented which showed the P50, P75 and P90 monthly predicted generation graphs. The P75 one was the one which the share offer was based upon. So I took that graph and converted it from monthly generation to monthly capacity factors taking into account the different number of days in each month. I sanity checked it by working out the average capacity factor from my P75 graph and tweaked it slightly to make an average capacity factor of 30.51 which matches the P75 average capacity factor.

I had previously used an average UK generic graph but from now on I will use this as I think it will be more accurate for the specific WT1 site. I have omitted March actuals, as we only had half a month.

As you can see, apart from the months of Jul, Aug and Sept it is running as or better than expected, and we look forward to the 5 best generation months of the year. :mrgreen:

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Looking forward to 👀 the graph tomorrow when home. Just took a moment to bring the SH's, EV & HWT schedule into line with our requirements going forward. There is a synchronicity there, the rise of the (hopefully) 50kWh WT1 day just as we need it at 🏡 .
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nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:43 pm BOOM !

They have updated it, 805.4 kWh for me. :twisted:

Bank. :mrgreen:

Capacity Factor 36.1

EDIT - Sarah (CEO from Ripple) has said on their website that there were some data gaps across the month and data from the start of the weekend were initially missing from the official generation data. In future they will not publish the months total until it's all been gathered and verified.
I had added up the daily returns over the month and had it at £29.77 for the month end but the dashboard only showed £24.69, this later changed to £25.36 and this morning it is at £29.99, well pleased with that.
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Fintray wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:44 am
nowty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:43 pm BOOM !

They have updated it, 805.4 kWh for me. :twisted:

Bank. :mrgreen:

Capacity Factor 36.1

EDIT - Sarah (CEO from Ripple) has said on their website that there were some data gaps across the month and data from the start of the weekend were initially missing from the official generation data. In future they will not publish the months total until it's all been gathered and verified.
I had added up the daily returns over the month and had it at £29.77 for the month end but the dashboard only showed £24.69, this later changed to £25.36 and this morning it is at £29.99, well pleased with that.
I had £68 credit in Octopus yesterday. Billed this morning so down to £14 credit and £68 coming from October WT1 generation. I am very happy with that. :D
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