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Plans for wind turbines and solar farm set for go-ahead although very small beer and vertical axis turbines ?, I thought they were a waste of time.
https://cwherald.com/news/plans-for-win ... -go-ahead/

"Five large wind turbines and 4,200 solar panels look set to get the go-ahead for a site off the westbound A66 on the outskirts of Penrith. It involves five 20kw vertical axis turbines, each measuring 47ft, and 4,200 ground mounted solar panels."

dan_b wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:45 pm This thread has taken a very strange turn!

Speaks volumes
Might have a curry myself. Smashing weather.

nowty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:01 pm Back on topic,

Plans for wind turbines and solar farm set for go-ahead although very small beer and vertical axis turbines ?, I thought they were a waste of time.
https://cwherald.com/news/plans-for-win ... -go-ahead/

"Five large wind turbines and 4,200 solar panels look set to get the go-ahead for a site off the westbound A66 on the outskirts of Penrith. It involves five 20kw vertical axis turbines, each measuring 47ft, and 4,200 ground mounted solar panels."

I didn't think the vertical turbines were any good.. Are they making a come back.. Reengineered?

Cheers for the pm. All good.

Windbag wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:40 pm

nowty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:01 pm Back on topic,

Plans for wind turbines and solar farm set for go-ahead although very small beer and vertical axis turbines ?, I thought they were a waste of time.
https://cwherald.com/news/plans-for-win ... -go-ahead/

"Five large wind turbines and 4,200 solar panels look set to get the go-ahead for a site off the westbound A66 on the outskirts of Penrith. It involves five 20kw vertical axis turbines, each measuring 47ft, and 4,200 ground mounted solar panels."

I didn't think the vertical turbines were any good.. Are they making a come back.. Reengineered?

Cheers for the pm. All good.

No worries, I suspect there may be some increase in the "on site" wind generation category soon.

VAWTs have always been, and will continue to be, rubbish. The physics hasn't changed.

dan_b wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:41 am VAWTs have always been, and will continue to be, rubbish. The physics hasn't changed.

+1

But as a trickle back up system they might have some sort of application that "ultimately"** works . .but for mass adoption for grid energy reliance, nope.
(As was pointed out a while ago to myself, unless you have read a dedicated book on the myriad of designs out there, you will get duped on the basis that it is a "new" design ...precisely how the snake oil investment & occasional implementation works.

Take a look at a london tower block with massive wind turbine built in..as a costly, non working folly that took planning, investors et al in & rinsed them.

Where's the architect of that design portfolio!?
(would love to see their cv gloss over that)

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... chitecture

https://www.strata-inhabit.co.uk/

**like a naff tricklecharger but it's still a brown trousers will it won't it every time you need to rely on it.

The thing is, VAWTs always end up being marketed/touted as a "small domestic turbine" solution - which as we know makes them even worse due to turbulent air flow.

dan_b wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:41 am VAWTs have always been, and will continue to be, rubbish. The physics hasn't changed.

Absolutely agree and I've got one! Puts out enough power to run one 12V led striplight.

I wish the reality was different.

I must say that even knowing this I like seeing it spin. Next time I'll invest in a coloured pinwheel.

My daughter had a led pattern changing battery powered enclosed spinning globe toy as a little kid, if they did that they'd be excusable as "entertainment value" on a windy night ...I might buy one then, as you say joe, the joy is seeing it spin (ditto the novelty garden propellor driven weather vane)