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Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:53 pm
by Joeboy
I was thinking about this today. Essentially we are micro producers being paid a rate for our power produced. One step away from what I'd really like. A kWh being a kWh at my end less management, transmission and network maintenance costs. An imperfect world and I think it'll be while before that next step is taken if ever. In saying that, I look forward to watching it all play out.

I assume with Dave Evans buying up the outstanding shares after 31st July then the co-op won't be paying interest on as much of a loan?

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:59 pm
by nowty
Joeboy wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:53 pm I assume with Dave Evans buying up the outstanding shares after 31st July then the co-op won't be paying interest on as much of a loan?
There will be no loan at all so there will be no interest to pay. There is still the £1.1m grant from the Welsh Government but the payment for that is the same as being a member. Dave Evans will probably receive his payment in a similar way to the Welsh Government.

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:39 am
by Joeboy
I hoped that would be the outcome. Great news! Looking forward to the next WT1 build update.

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:22 am
by Joeboy
Mojomal wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:00 am I'm in. Have purchased 1.5 kW which should generate 4kW for us.
Many thanks Joe and Nowty for your advice.
All the best.
Malcolm.
Well done! Who of Camelot lives closest to the site and vol's for photo duties....Anyone...? :)

I normally use a can or bottle of beer for scale reference if need be, Might need to up the size of reference for this. :lol:

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:47 pm
by Joeboy
98%, I hope they build as fast as they are currently selling.

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by nowty
I mentioned it to my climate change sceptic father, who keeps on quoting "they said back in 1950 that Southport would be under water by 1970 and it still isn't". :evil:

Then he asked, "how much is the return ?", "Eh, about 6.5% I replied."

He said, "I'm in, maybe I should be a bit more greener." :shock:

Your 91 years old dad, its a long term payback ! :!:

But its 6.5%, how much can I buy ? :twisted:

So I signed him up for just over 1kW. :lol:

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:34 pm
by Joeboy
That's a good story, good on yer Dad! I've been back and forth in my mind wether to buy more but I'm sticking with next investment being into
Ripple WT2. Eggs in one basket, fallback position if a single point failure etc. Hoping site for WT2 isn't just half a click West of WT1! Will see/hear soon enough! :)

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:41 am
by nowty
Joeboy wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:34 pm That's a good story, good on yer Dad! I've been back and forth in my mind wether to buy more but I'm sticking with next investment being into
Ripple WT2. Eggs in one basket, fallback position if a single point failure etc. Hoping site for WT2 isn't just half a click West of WT1! Will see/hear soon enough! :)
I was thinking where a good place might be for WT2 to compliment it, i.e for different wind conditions. I was thinking East Anglia or even Aberdeenshire in your neck of the woods might work.

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:31 pm
by Mr Gus
Look for "Red Tile" / red tile farm / red tile trust, some of the earlier East Anglian turbines built, which are now surrounded by plenty more.

Admittedly the problem with moving any further out into the fens brings with it problem potential of being underwater once more. so i'd use red tile as a furthest out marker point with any recommendations for this region, also fair to point out the lowest point in the UK (& sinking) is just a few miles away!

Following that Godmanchester, decent altitude rise & home to agricultural fields & 30 years of likely data from Wood green turbines, & yes it blows up there (by fen altitude standards)

Re: Part ownership of a Wind Turbine, fancy it?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:49 pm
by AE-NMidlands
nowty wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:56 pm I mentioned it to my climate change sceptic father, who keeps on quoting "they said back in 1950 that Southport would be under water by 1970 and it still isn't". :evil:
Then he asked, "how much is the return ?", "Eh, about 6.5% I replied."
He said, "I'm in, maybe I should be a bit more greener." :shock:

Your 91 years old dad, its a long term payback ! :!:
But its 6.5%, how much can I buy ? :twisted:
So I signed him up for just over 1kW. :lol:
This is the opposite to my experience...
I (grandad) have got less than 10% of my savings in green energy, but what I have got produces 7% (Ecotricity bond) and 2 to 4% for the rest - or will do quite soon when they start generating.
If you are just focussed on returns, all are far better than anything on offer from National Savings. If you are concerned about ethical investments and prepared to forgo the highest returns then these should be a no-brainer.

However I can't get my kids to take it seriously. They are both established professionals and should now have a few £k to save, but they see these things as snake oil, one of dad's hare-brained schemes (but I don't see any of them as a get-rich-quick con, and I haven't backed a loser yet...)
I despair of the next generation, but live in hope that their kids might challenge them sometime soon I'm pinning my hopes on Greta, I can't see Boris or his cronies ever making the step-change reductions in energy use which are so desperately needed...
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