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Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:47 pm
by dan_b
Batteries on the Faroe Islands doubles the utilisation of onshore wind generation
https://www.energy-storage.news/hitachi ... ilisation/
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:15 pm
by Mr Gus
Now that's a place to visit, windfarms or not.
Greatearly days data coming out of it.
Thanks dan.
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:23 pm
by Stinsy
I've said before that putting 1-2x the rated power of the WT in kWh of batteries into the base of the WT seems like a no-brainer to me...
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:47 pm
by Moxi
Plus one to Stinsy's comment, the connections are there, theres space around if not in the WT - just seems an obvious option unless anyone knows better.
Moxi
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 pm
by Coriolis
Too much risk. Bad enough to lose a battery pack or two to a fire. Losing a whole WT is a whole other level of loss.
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 pm
by Swwils
And the cost.
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am
by Moxi
So a few Iso freight containers of batteries in-between wind turbines is a hazard to the wind turbines ? I didn't think they were that fragile ? also are the industrial batteries a different chemistry to the pylontechs we tend to install as the general consensus seems to be low fire risk for those ? What about capacitors as an alternate albeit very temporary storage medium ? are they any safer ?
Moxi
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:14 am
by Yuff
Swwils wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 pmAnd the cost.
Which would be cheaper installing the batteries or paying them billions to switch them off, which is the current hare-brained solution….
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:31 am
by nowty
Yuff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:14 am
Swwils wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 pmAnd the cost.
Which would be cheaper installing the batteries or paying them billions to switch them off, which is the current hare-brained solution….
I believe you still pay them to be constrained, constraint payments are for constraint to the grid, not to stop generating if the leccy can go into the batteries or used directly elsewhere. Then they sell on the leccy from the batteries when there is no constraint, at least thats the way its going for the Offshore windfarms.
https://www.netzerowatch.com/how-windfa ... ectricity/
Re: Batteries increase wind farm utilisation
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:30 am
by Yuff
nowty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:31 am
Yuff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:14 am
Swwils wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 pmAnd the cost.
Which would be cheaper installing the batteries or paying them billions to switch them off, which is the current hare-brained solution….
I believe you still pay them to be constrained, constraint payments are for constraint to the grid, not to stop generating if the leccy can go into the batteries or used directly elsewhere. Then they sell on the leccy from the batteries when there is no constraint, at least thats the way its going for the Offshore windfarms.
https://www.netzerowatch.com/how-windfa ... ectricity/
I saw a report in Feb where we had paid one company £80m for January to stop producing, that buys a lot of batteries