how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Stinsy/Nora,
Please stop while it's your choice. Thank you. Nobody's getting their face smashed in. Stinsy, you seem a bit brittle lately. Chill, it's all good.
Please stop while it's your choice. Thank you. Nobody's getting their face smashed in. Stinsy, you seem a bit brittle lately. Chill, it's all good.
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42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Done. I already regret getting sucked in...
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3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
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Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
I have not called anyone ignorant.Stinsy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:33 pmReally? You're going with that?
Sorry mate I should have ended the conversation when you called me "ignorant". And I definitely should've ended it when you tried the "well I meant the dictionary definition didn't mean to offend anyone" nonsense. You go into any pub in the country and try that, I guarantee you'll get your face smashed in. Just because this is the internet and you're out of arms reach doesn't give you the right to be obnoxious.
Go and look for yourself.
You are reading something that is not there.
And you are doing the same by stating i am fighting for fossil fuels.
I have stated i have mechanical experience with ICE cars, and that was a factor as to why i decided not to go with an EV when we were due to move to rural scotland.
FFS man, i have even said i regret not getting one due to never driving far enough to warrant a diesel car now. The short journeys i do only make now make diesel by far the worst choice i could have made for efficiency.
Somehow you have managed to twist that into a narrative of your pleasing.
Think what you F*cking like.
Im done with this.
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Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
No problem Joe.
8x 395w Canadian solar (3.160kw)
Planned 20 440w JA solar (8.8kw)
12kw midea ASHP
3152W RE, Whitelaw Brae
3kw solis G98 grid tied
2x 3.6kw sunsynk ecco g99
4x16 280A eve batteries (57kw)
Planned 20 440w JA solar (8.8kw)
12kw midea ASHP
3152W RE, Whitelaw Brae
3kw solis G98 grid tied
2x 3.6kw sunsynk ecco g99
4x16 280A eve batteries (57kw)
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
A lot of cat for not very much folding stuff. Tesla is out of vogue with the vox pop this week but next week it will be something else - plus I’d like to think that folk where you live are able to think a bit more for themselves than the defaid (sheep for the non afiliated
) we have here abouts.
Moxi

Moxi
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Speaking of sheep the lambs are starting here now, first pair of twins arrived in the adjacent field today and last Friday we called the friends father as one of his new born lambs was being rejected by its mum. He was up inside half an hour and got them pared up and off to the nursery field close to home to monitor.
The kids love it at this time of year with all the lambs around.
Moxi
The kids love it at this time of year with all the lambs around.
Moxi
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Been watching a couple of farming shows with swmbo. Heavy workloads and emotional stress. Hats off to them. My ex bil has a big flock of sheep. Mad time of year for them.Moxi wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:36 pm Speaking of sheep the lambs are starting here now, first pair of twins arrived in the adjacent field today and last Friday we called the friends father as one of his new born lambs was being rejected by its mum. He was up inside half an hour and got them pared up and off to the nursery field close to home to monitor.
The kids love it at this time of year with all the lambs around.
Moxi
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
42kWh LFPO4 storage
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
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Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
For us (Penny and I) EVs don't quite make sense yet. An EV car COULD replace one of our SUVs 80% of the time. But we'd still have to HAVE SUVs or pick-up trucks in order to count on getting in and out. A matter of being able to negotiate unpaved during "mud season" (deep ruts), get home even though now 4" of snow, or if another flood takes out the road (two since we've lived here) and we have just temporary repairs, negotiate bulldozed rock for a couple months till really fixed.
And distances are both greater here and human density much lower. Yes I live in the densely inhabited part of the US but that is relative. Franklin County MA has about 30% the density of North Yorkshire. When we visit the kids of friends of ours in the "Daks" (maybe three hours away) it's better check your fuel gauge before the "forever wild" boundary, because there are only 3-4 places you can buy petrol! << the Adirondacks is about three times the size of North Yorkshire with less than 1/10th the population -- think of what North Yorkshire would be like at 1/30th the density >>
Mind I like wilderness. Back when Penny's mom was alive and living in Thunder Bay Ontario we once chose to drive back using the northern route to experience the 220 km stretch between Long Lac and Hearst << you see ONE building, a rest area "privy" about midway>>
And distances are both greater here and human density much lower. Yes I live in the densely inhabited part of the US but that is relative. Franklin County MA has about 30% the density of North Yorkshire. When we visit the kids of friends of ours in the "Daks" (maybe three hours away) it's better check your fuel gauge before the "forever wild" boundary, because there are only 3-4 places you can buy petrol! << the Adirondacks is about three times the size of North Yorkshire with less than 1/10th the population -- think of what North Yorkshire would be like at 1/30th the density >>
Mind I like wilderness. Back when Penny's mom was alive and living in Thunder Bay Ontario we once chose to drive back using the northern route to experience the 220 km stretch between Long Lac and Hearst << you see ONE building, a rest area "privy" about midway>>
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Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
We've got loads next to us too - they are sooo cuteMoxi wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:36 pm Speaking of sheep the lambs are starting here now, first pair of twins arrived in the adjacent field today and last Friday we called the friends father as one of his new born lambs was being rejected by its mum. He was up inside half an hour and got them pared up and off to the nursery field close to home to monitor.
The kids love it at this time of year with all the lambs around.
Moxi
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5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
Re: how much energy is wasted driving a petrol car
Glad my early adopter exploits helped inspire others!
Moxi wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:23 pmIt was reading exploits like that, and by others, which gave me the confidence I needed to take the BEV plunge, I don’t mind saying that in 39 years of motoring my Kia EV6 is my favourite vehicle by a country mile.Joeboy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:03 pmI remember that trip. I was amazed at the robust & plentiful nature of the Tesla charge network.The Tesla charging network is I'd say the best in Europe/UK? BP pulse is good but dear. Chargeplace Scotland has a lot of broken chargers but is considerably cheaper than BP Pulse. Tesla seem to have a good balance of price and reliability?dan_b wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:33 pm Just looked back at some old photos of the first long road trip I did in my 2019 Model 3 Long Range back in 2020
1935 miles around France at an average of 295Wh/mile. Which back then felt like a bit of an adventure into the unknown.
It was all routed via Tesla Superchargers, and there was busy one where I had to queue, but goodness me it really was not an issue 5 years ago and the charging infrastructure has massively increased since then.
I had that car 4 years (replaced it with the 2023 Model 3 Performance I now have). Service requirement in that time was wiper blades, 4 new tires, upper suspension arm bushes, two rear light clusters (water ingress) and replacement cabin filters. Light clusters and suspension bushings were done under warranty.
The car is still in use in our company, is on 66,000 miles, and has since only had replacement wiper arms.
Moxi
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