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Mr Gus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:41 pm +1 Stinsy.

This is why I was speaking to Morrisons head P.A last week (i'm not happy at the sell off incidentally) but which petrol station do you pull into, the one @28p per litre (tesla charger cost for instance, with open access to all) or the Ionity @70p per litre? (because that;s the context for a fill they understand.

Morrisons low price per kWh = custom, dwell time, papers, coffee, fruit, snacks, pizzas cooked ..& still save money OR "QUALITY & VALUE" mantra maintained progressively.

I asked that they don't just "guess" charger implementation & adaptation from garage forecourts, nor sell it off, but consult with experienced EV owners who use their shops when chargers are free or reasonable, which renting off space to the likes of Genie or Ionity is not!

(the newer layouts for Mozzers design offers cafes with access to the outside, under cover, ideal for charger placement & dwell time as well as shopping access, ..part of Tesla's sensible remit for charger location "ideal" is access to LOO's, Drinks, foodstuffs & the like, ...so follow their lead, tie in petrol price promotions with EV charging equivalent because we spend & lose out currently, ..to think transitionally & exploit cheaply pre-existing services.

I cannot quite see Mozzers teaming up with Tesla for car park superchargers, but they have opportunity to emulate & capture a decent market share if they pull their heads out of their backsides & design well from the groundworks up.

dan_b wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:46 pm This is worth a read - a blog about high power charging and aiming the charge rate most appropriately for the best experience of the end user.

https://fullycharged.show/blog/is-bigge ... -charging/

It is written by someone at Osprey Charging, so not exactly un-biased, but it is worth noting that the Osprey Network is quite a different proposition to Ionity.

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:08 pm

dan_b wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:46 pm This is worth a read - a blog about high power charging and aiming the charge rate most appropriately for the best experience of the end user.

https://fullycharged.show/blog/is-bigge ... -charging/

It is written by someone at Osprey Charging, so not exactly un-biased, but it is worth noting that the Osprey Network is quite a different proposition to Ionity.

Whoever wrote that article fundamentally doesn't understand how EV chargers work. They can have 10x "350kW" chargers but don't need a 3.5MW power supply, a 1MW or smaller power supply could easily do the job. If 10x Taycans turn up they'll have to put up with slower charge rate, but in the real world most spaces would be empty or occupied by slower-charging vehicles.

dan_b wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:49 am He's a mechanical engineer who works at Osprey Charging.

Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:08 pm

dan_b wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:46 pm This is worth a read - a blog about high power charging and aiming the charge rate most appropriately for the best experience of the end user.

https://fullycharged.show/blog/is-bigge ... -charging/

It is written by someone at Osprey Charging, so not exactly un-biased, but it is worth noting that the Osprey Network is quite a different proposition to Ionity.

Whoever wrote that article fundamentally doesn't understand how EV chargers work. They can have 10x "350kW" chargers but don't need a 3.5MW power supply, a 1MW or smaller power supply could easily do the job. If 10x Taycans turn up they'll have to put up with slower charge rate, but in the real world most spaces would be empty or occupied by slower-charging vehicles.