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Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:44 am
by Thebeeman
Am I correct in thinking that these cars require a kerb or a lane marking to know where they are on the road?
Down here in rural Devon we don't have such things, a lot of roads are not even 2 cars wide. Are we going to have 2 d/less cars meeting each other nose to nose and neither will/can reverse to a suitable wide section to enable them to pass each other.
They might work on M and A roads and in urban areas but I can't see a d/less Uber or white van turning up at my door this century.

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:44 am
by Stinsy
They’re a lot more sophisticated than you imagine. They use a combination of optical information from the cameras and mapping/gps data. With some systems using radar/LiDAR in addition.

However the narrowest country lanes require precision in mm to pass, often with the sensors flatlining on several sides, I’m not sure how driverless will master that.

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:18 am
by Windbag
Never thought of that.

I wondered how they would cope with the cr@p network coverage that we enjoy in the UK.

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:50 am
by dan_b
Yeah - I think that's a real issue. You get plenty enough Mexican Standoffs with humans behind the wheel in situations like this - how an AI will respond will be really interesting!

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:55 am
by Mr Gus
As we are countryside that happens a lot (no distinctive markings) which upsets tesla massively.

DItto the merest flakes of snow kick you out of anything but manual, that bit I understand there's simply too much flying in front of the camera's..

However as the computer & camera's on our car are totally fcuked & tesla techs quite rightly state it is too dangerous for them to want to drive & there is no fix for the faults which tesla have left us high & dry with (like cutting a mooring on a boat in a busy shipping lane / fast flow river, it's hard to tell what works as per design, (broken since day one)

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:54 pm
by richbee
dan_b wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:50 am Yeah - I think that's a real issue. You get plenty enough Mexican Standoffs with humans behind the wheel in situations like this - how an AI will respond will be really interesting!
I can imagine they will come up with a solution - you will probably be able to upgrade to have priority for a nice monthly fee - like priority boarding - and then 'extra priority' once everyone pays for priority :lol:

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:20 pm
by Mr Gus
I shudder, because as already proven, no camera footage for whatever reason liability likely to be piled on you, as we experienced tesla are not interested in fixing what is broken, nor making good with faulty technology.

Why else would tesla's own people be afraid of driving our broken vehicle, the liability potential for the driver is massive all the while tesla state no footage no problem exists (regardless of physical damage) ..bearing in mind the mindset that comes about from automatic assumption of everything recorded everywhere all the time (sort of thing) missing footage puts any claim on the back foot & ups your potential for liability with no sensors kicking in, ..I wonder how this has affected crashes of all kinds involving tesla tech for the vehicle doing stuff all by itself, which is then pooh-poohed by tesla.

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:17 pm
by ALAN/ALAN D
Time to STOP DRIVING on motorways.

Drivers will be legally allowed to take their hands off the steering wheel on Britain’s motorways for the first time as long as they watch the road, after the government approved another step on the path to self-driving cars. :lol: :oops: 8-)

The driving-assist feature in Ford’s latest Mustang Mach-E model, which allows the vehicle to steer and accelerate but also monitors the driver’s attention to ensure their eyes are on the road, will be permitted by the Department for Transport in a first for Europe.

I have lost the link. There was a good one in America where the police stopped the car. The three people were asked to get out to be searched.
While they were standing being searched. The car drove away.

Re: Driverless cars

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:01 pm
by nowty
If this isn't the same incident, its similar. :lol:


Bit more info on this report as it is said the car drove away and pulled over to a safe location as programmed.