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Hydrogen bus market in California is heating up
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:32 am
by Mart
I look forward to seeing how the news tries to blame this on BEV's/Tesla fires. The UK news has gone so anti-EV this year, their silence or spin, should be deafening.
“Explosions were heard:” Hydrogen bus destroyed by fire while refuelling
The hydrogen bus destroyed in the fire, estimated to have cost $1.1 million, was one of ten hydrogen buses purchased by Golden Empire Transit as part of its transition to zero emissions fuels.
Re: Hydrogen bus market in California is heating up
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:34 am
by dan_b
Initially I thought this was the same exploding hydrogen bus incident as happened in The Netherlands in 2021 - but it seems it's another one!
https://www.sustainable-bus.com/news/hy ... a-solaris/
Re: Hydrogen bus market in California is heating up
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:39 pm
by Mr Gus
Surely in 2023 there would have been a follow up as to "cause" for the dutch hydogen-kaboom episode
Because, if folk bother to read 3 buses were present, DIESEL, HYDROGEN, BEV.
I'd like to know in recent history what other episodes of fire the workshop had encountered as it runs all three variants (fairness & context) ..however does appear iffy doesn't it, bundled together with another suspected hydrogen bus wrecking incident... BUT, that's the sort of media hawking a blurred reality story that got Tesla all the attention unfairly & ford fair enough(ly) for combustion scenarios.
& we don't want to go there do we!?
(Glad to see at least one contract was cancelled when they looked at the cost of producing & running hydrogen versus BEV)
Re: Hydrogen bus market in California is heating up
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:03 pm
by dan_b
"Hissing sound at H2 filling station causes evacuation"
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transpo ... -1-1490137
Re: Hydrogen bus market in California is heating up
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:30 pm
by Mr Gus
The temporary shut down of the main valve took2 hours & closed a main road as well as immediate area ..oof!
Lets add this into the mix for an idea of hydrogen filling station use & sales (though it is a blind pin in a map really) but might give an inkling into seals & safety related to the fuelling process of hydrogen dispensers...
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transpo ... -1-1477625
'Only 168 hydrogen-powered cars sold in Germany this year' — less than two per H2 filling station
By comparison, registrations of battery-electric vehicles came close to 168,000 over the same period
Wear & tear?
Will local councils with hydrogen concerns insist on collapsible fuelling stations to quash fires if this becomes a thing? (petrol explosions are bad enough) ..will it mean attendant fuelling comes into play to ensure safety protocols are adhered to? (all additional costs to be borne by consumers, it's not like oil companies want to lower their revenue stream after such a cushy life via dino juice pump profits)
We had collapsible concrete bunkers at work that were ex chemical storage, ramps for driving a forklift into was always a bit dicey mind (steep)