Kerosene (Heating Oil) in a tractor?

[Tinbum]

Better still give it to a military vehicle enthusiast with a K60

I had a K60 engine that I was going to put in a vehicle. Absolutely fantastic engine. Took a bit of gettering used to the principle of having 2 pistons per cylinder, the RPM it could do and the acceleration.

[Kommando]

Is that K60 engine using the same principle as the Napier Deltic with two opposed pistons per combustion chamber.

[Tinbum]

Yes but only 2 crankshafts.

[smegal]

I'm sure there'll be online resources that will say how much 2 stroke oil would be needed to replace the missing lubricity.

I'd only risk it on a low value tractor though.

[openspaceman]

Yes but only 2 crankshafts.

Only the bottom one puts out power, the top is less robust for timing purposes. They burn a lot of lube oil and were a poor compromise over a straight diesel, in order to satisfy NATO requirements for multifuel.

A local chap stuck one in a stalwart and attempted to circumnavigate the Isle of Wight, we waved him off and never got to see him again, though only because we went home and then he emigrated.

[Oliver90owner]

Gas oil, red diesel and 35 sec heating oil are the same thing as DERV but with the dye and possibly other marker added. Kerosene and 28 sec heating oil are lighter fractions and ignite more easily, I wouldn't have any qualms about using up to 30% in a direct injection diesel tractor. Better still give it to a military vehicle enthusiast with a K60 or L60 multifuel engine which are designed to burn anything from gasoil through avtur to 85 octane petrol (rather poorly).

Common rail diesel would be too risky for me to try.

TVO was something between low octane petrol and old fashioned esso blue paraffin. Enthusiasts try and replicate it by mixing but it is not the same as the cut from the refinery which was not a blend but a particular fraction.

Close. 3 out of 4 are (well were) the same. 28 and 35 second Redwood are
distinctly different fractions.

Different rules, these days, as the ‘customer and exercise’ mob want more revenue. Derv must be low sulphur for road use and many on-site vehicles are now required to use Derv. Rules, I believe, are different for private use.

Kerosene likely has insufficient lubricity to run in diesel engines and may adversely affect nozzles if used at 100%. Usual was to add up to about a third to diesel in very cold weather to improve starting and avoid waxing.

The typical TVO recipe was 3 1/2 Kerosene, 1 Petrol and 1/2 Diesel. I used that recipe for years - but could use 100% kerosene, with no problem, if working hard (ploughing?) with my main tractor. One needs a good manifold arrangement to avoid spidering the spark plugs when running on lighter loads.

[AE-NMidlands]

Close. 3 out of 4 are (well were) the same. 28 and 35 second Redwood are
distinctly different fractions.

Different rules, these days, as the ‘customer and exercise’ mob want more revenue. Derv must be low sulphur for road use and many on-site vehicles are now required to use Derv. Rules, I believe, are different for private use.

Kerosene likely has insufficient lubricity to run in diesel engines and may adversely affect nozzles if used at 100%. Usual was to add up to about a third to diesel in very cold weather to improve starting and avoid waxing.

The typical TVO recipe was 3 1/2 Kerosene, 1 Petrol and 1/2 Diesel. I used that recipe for years - but could use 100% kerosene, with no problem, if working hard (ploughing?) with my main tractor. One needs a good manifold arrangement to avoid spidering the spark plugs when running on lighter loads.

I remember my uncle starting his old Fordson tractor (on which I learnt to drive in about 1965 - at age 12) on petrol, I think. and switching over to TVO quite soon after.
It might have been a slightly later tractor that I learnt on, but their tractor was always parked in the field with a steep slope so that it could be bump-started. Woe betide you if you fluffed it!

[ecogeorge]

and woe betide the person stopped the engine without switching back to petrol for the next cold start ....

[AE-NMidlands]

and woe betide the person stopped the engine without switching back to petrol for the next cold start ....

I don't remember that bit, but it was just summer holidays that I spent there (in S Devon.)

[resybaby]

I wouldn't go beyond a 10% mix and only if as Gareth said its an.older tractor. I ran the 1996 2.5D Bongo on a 70/30 split veg oil with no worries apart from waxes in the fuel filter.

Try advertising for sale on gumtree?

I did the same back in the mid 90's with an old Citroen AX 1.4d. 70/30 mix new veg oil/proper diesel. Ran a lot quieter but smelt like a mobile chippy van.
Did it for many years until the police, i think in Cardiff?, noticed lots of cars smelling that way and pulled them.
The media story getting in the press then meant Veg oil prices rocketted from the 27p/litre they were and it became financially not worth it anymore. Used to buy loads with the weeks shopping.
Did well over 70k miles in that car with no trouble at all. No common rail fuel system with a well worn but supposedly incapable Lucas pump, Bosch pumps supposedly better as less tight tolerances. I think most VW's of that era were ideal.
Happy days.