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The UK battery electric car market grew 18.8 per cent in July YoY, as 27,335 new BEVs hit the road. It thus outpaced all other market segments. However, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) notes that the numbers still stay behind the mandate that ZEVs must account for at least 22% of each brand’s new car registrations per year.

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in that 22%fig is no allowance given for PHEV (plug in hybrid EV) ? Do the 5000 london black cabs not help the fig then ?

I can imagine there will be a lot of pre reg cars come the end of the year

Ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:18 am in that 22%fig is no allowance given for PHEV (plug in hybrid EV) ? Do the 5000 london black cabs not help the fig then ?

I can imagine there will be a lot of pre reg cars come the end of the year

Yep, PHEV's do go toward the figure. The same applies for the EU limits, but they are going to massively reduce the PHEV contribution following the studies showing that emissions are much higher than suggested (about 3x I beleive and about 5x for company PHEV's).

Toyota desperately trying to sell their dodgy Buzyforks model in the UK, and PHEV's too, but almost certain they'll have to buy in credits to avoid the £13k fine per vehicle for falling short ....... or stop selling ICEV's later in the year?

Looking at this, https://www.zap-map.com/ev-stats/ev-market/ there is still a growth in plug in sales, but 2022-2023 were very high sales years, probably due to pent up demand due to the chip shortage/covid related issues.

I'd imagine 2025-2026 will be busy years as all of the 2022-2023 NHS salary sacrifice leases (and others) will be up for renewal. While we are probably not ready to be a 2 EV household*, my wife is 100% going to lease a new EV in 2025. Unfortunately, there are some journeys our current EV won't do, such as to my mum's and back on one charge.

*there is a chance that if the lease company will take trade price for my wife's EV that I won't be able to resist it.

smegal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:14 am , there are some journeys our current EV won't do, such as to my mum's and back on one charge.

And what is so special about doing it on one charge?

Ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:59 pm

smegal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:14 am , there are some journeys our current EV won't do, such as to my mum's and back on one charge.

And what is so special about doing it on one charge?

It's awkward having to granny charge while out and about. There are sometimes situations (childcare), where a quick turnaround is what we want.

Probably only need another 20-30 miles range to get where we want, so the next car will probably be fine.

It's only 90-100 miles each way, but each way uses more than 50% in our 2022 xc40 single motor.

Ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:59 pm

smegal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:14 am , there are some journeys our current EV won't do, such as to my mum's and back on one charge.

And what is so special about doing it on one charge?

Another issue is business use. I usually need less than 200 miles range for round trips and I'm fine but occasionally I need 400 miles of range and I am not sitting waiting for a charge to happen. As much as I try to use public transport there are some places I just can't get to in reasonable times (looking at you Norfolk).